Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Company Commander
Physical Training
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I would go ask hospital leadership. What did you learn about self care right here at Ft Sam? If you're not medical, yeah, get your butt to formation. If you are, talk to your team leader. Then go up the line.
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Man up soldier. Quit whining about and just do it.
Dang I would so hate to be in todays army where newbies pull stress cards and people whine about not getting enough sleep and being overworked. Back in the ‘80’s to early 2000 we had each others backs, we stood up together, and we did what we were told to do. Period.
Dang I would so hate to be in todays army where newbies pull stress cards and people whine about not getting enough sleep and being overworked. Back in the ‘80’s to early 2000 we had each others backs, we stood up together, and we did what we were told to do. Period.
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I don’t know why I’m just getting an email about this 3 years after it was posted, but I do have an opinion about this.
It’s BS, and so are a lot of these comments. “Going to clubs and showing up to PT.”
“You can sleep after PT.”
Those are all BS, old school answers. And quite honestly, those answers have no place these days. Congratulations. Some of these commenters had shitty lives in their careers and expect everyone else to also have a shitty life.
The correct answer is that people’s leadership need to take into account each of their soldiers’ schedules and plan/accommodate accordingly.
If someone works 1600-0000, they should be allowed to do PT on their own at whatever time they, individually, feel necessary. Whether it’s at 0030, 0600, 1400, whatever. If they check in through text/call (in place of a formal formation), I don’t see an issue.
It’s BS, and so are a lot of these comments. “Going to clubs and showing up to PT.”
“You can sleep after PT.”
Those are all BS, old school answers. And quite honestly, those answers have no place these days. Congratulations. Some of these commenters had shitty lives in their careers and expect everyone else to also have a shitty life.
The correct answer is that people’s leadership need to take into account each of their soldiers’ schedules and plan/accommodate accordingly.
If someone works 1600-0000, they should be allowed to do PT on their own at whatever time they, individually, feel necessary. Whether it’s at 0030, 0600, 1400, whatever. If they check in through text/call (in place of a formal formation), I don’t see an issue.
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Says "I don't want to whine" starts whining. :)
On submarine duty, there were qualifications, watch duty, training, more qualifications, field day, more trainng, more quals...pulled a 54 hr straight once on ten pots of coffee and I hit my goal being a hot runner on quals and supported the watch roatation, so, if you are going to whine about a little PT this ain't the gig for you in life...go manage a Wendy's.
On submarine duty, there were qualifications, watch duty, training, more qualifications, field day, more trainng, more quals...pulled a 54 hr straight once on ten pots of coffee and I hit my goal being a hot runner on quals and supported the watch roatation, so, if you are going to whine about a little PT this ain't the gig for you in life...go manage a Wendy's.
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Great question! I have a dear friend that doesn't say he was a veteran because he was in Korea his SSG didn't like him so for a year. Made him work as mechanic and then do 8 hours as mail man Korean mail. Wasn't dishonorable but wasn't honorable would love to fix, Great guy!
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Shut up and obay your orders.
End of the story.
End of the story.
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