Posted on Jun 12, 2019
I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?
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We have a new 1SG and new commander. The 1SG noticed one day that only 5 people in the whole company showed up to PT. Now he put out to all the platoon Sergeants that everyone must show up to PT at either the 0530 formation or the 1600 formation.
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
However, my section is the only one in the hospital that has a 1600-0000 shift. I am being told by my first line that the 1SG says that I have to be at the morning formation, no exceptions.
I don’t want to sound like I’m whining but at the same time it’s unfortunate that I have to explain to myself as to why this isn’t right.
As a junior enlisted I do feel stuck.
How do I bring this issue up and solve this effectively and professionally?
Also: Do you know of any Army Regulations that can support anything?
Edited 6 y ago
Posted 6 y ago
Responses: 1688
You do as ordered and don't complain. It does get better. Also, no bars or drinking. Sleep instead of watching TV. War doesn't stop because you haven't gotten your 4-5 hr. beauty rest.
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Sounds like you need to suck it up and drive on just like everyone else has in the past. I can remember being forced to go out on missions with little to no sleep yet, the enemy didn't care nor did they feel sorry for us. Everyone has a job, the 1SG and Commanders job is to have a company that is ready to fight and if you don't fit the bill, their careers suffer. I don't remember it being an option to do PT in the morning or afternoon, the afternoon was always reserved for the ones who couldn't pass their required PT test. Bottom line is, suck it up because while you are crying about having to go to PT with little to no sleep, your enemy is preparing to exploit your weakness. I don't drink alcohol but I know a lot of Infantryman that would stay out drinking all night and come in in time to change into PT's and take the test and max it with no problem, guess it was just a different breed of soldier back in the day (prior to the softer gentler Army of today).
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You feel stuck? You volunteered. Your oath says you follow the orders given to you. It's unfortunate that your scheduling hours are not convenient, but you are in the Army, your not on the block. You also list your rank as SPC(P) soon you will be a NCO. Lead by example. I remember sitting in my aircraft for 8-10 hours to log 1 hour, waiting. Then going to my commanders formation, then platoon formation and meeting with my platoon sergeant one on one preparing for the next day, getting a few hours sleep and doing it again in 110+ heat of Ft. Hood. I'm not complaining, I did my duty.
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I’m not sure if I’m getting the whole picture on this, but from what I read was you’re schedule for work from 1600 to 0000?? There’s 24hrs in the day so you literally have 16hrs left!! You subtract another 1.5 hrs for PT, darn you will still have more than enough personal time left (lucky you). I’m not trying to be old school or anything but seems to me tho that you not managing your time properly
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You're not in Kansas anymore, it is a democracy. Three years of doing what you are Ordered.
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You go to PT. You're in the military. Sorry you joined the army but this is what it is. Others have it worse than you. Sorry to say but you're just complaining and we all do it.
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I suggest you shoulder a weapon ….and be careful don’t hurt yourself and as soon as possible get a civilian job so you can get ur beauty sleep ….
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Suck it up and drive on! Once you get out of the military you can sleep how long you want but that want happen because you will be use to not having any sleep at all. Train your body to understand that when it is time to rest, rest and when it's time to work, work. These are sacrifices we make when we serve our country. PT is a part of that sacrifice it helps us to build ourselves up to gain that extra push we need when things get tough. So, teach yourself how to fully function on two hours. Yes,the human body needs sleep but a 30 min nap is better than no sleep at all.
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Your problem isn't getting sleep,it's time management. We had formation at 0530- 1800 . You didn't miss formation. You had the other 11 1/2 hrs to do what you wanted. There was a 00:00 to 05:00 curfew on the village. Thier have been millions of use that have gotten through our time. With out a single writeup. You can do this, there will be time where you wont get good sleep for days . Enjoy it when you can.
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