I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

You said the unit has a new 1SG and Cdr. Since the 1SG knew that folks weren't going to PT, I'm going to figure he was with the unit for at least a week before the PT schedule was mandated. That Commander and 1SG had to set the tone for their new unit, and the expectation that the unit will comply with and meet Army Standards. As new to the unit leaders, it's difficult to go from being the easy nice guy to realizing you have to be a hard a$$. It's much easier to go from two mandated PT formations and every soldier is going to be there, to allowing soldiers to adjust their PT time once a pattern of attendance is demonstrated. BTW, I don't see this as a case of "toxic Leadership" of a 1SG and Cdr. I would consider this a failure on the part of the Platoon and Section Sergeants who should've been doing their friggin job by taking care of their soldiers and getting them involved in PT, even if it meant they had to do it themselves at an appropriate time, or better, set up a roster and use it to train future leaders by example and doing. Excuse me if as a retired MSG I would expect my junior leaders to do their job.

I too expect that when PT attendance returns to where it should be, and the responsible NCOs return to what they should be doing, the 1SG will be more amenable to other PT times, or a shift doing PT together at an appropriate time for their schedule with a responsible NCOIC that keeps soldiers accountable.

In the meantime, as one who is a morning person, up at 0600 even as a teenager, and doesn't do well after 2100H, I can relate to your sleep schedule trouble. We've all had times and will have times we've had to work around this, or push on with little sleep. You have to find a way to work around it, and sometimes you have to learn to "soldier on". In the meantime, try getting some sleep immediately after your shift, and take an hour or two nap in the afternoon. You might find you like it better.

The best to you in your career.

Do the best you can take it one day at a time and be glad you have health care and remember why you are where you're at
you are in the army you are not in a civilian job;)

What are the others doing on your work rotation? Are they unable to do PT for the same reason? Is your squad leader or FLL available?

Go to the medic if you hava medical problem related to this otherwise, yeah shit sucks sometimes.

Not trying to sound insensitive but I worked with my CO a full bird who came in at 0500 and did PT with us at 0600 go to work then left at 1800 and he would then go home with his family and be Boy scout master then get up and do all over. Just remember in combat you won't get set sleeping schedules. Why you think we drink so much coffee. Keep chin up this will soon pass and it won't bother you anymore.

Did they actually tell you " You only get 4-5 hours of sleep " Or did you, go out the night before, knowing you had PT in the morning? If you went out, it's all on you, not your commands fault, that you can't manage your time.

Get your lazy ass out of the rack do your PT and then go back to bed. You are a pussy!

You're whining --- suck it up, li'l buddy.

Are you the only in your platoon working these hours? 4 hours of sleep long term on a regular basis isn't a great situation. If there are others working the same hours, I would suggest you as a group go up the chain of command and request an alternate PT time so you can be more alert to work your shift.

Done it many a times during my 20 year tenure. Makes a man out of you and a better soldier. But, it seems you need to make better with your time management. No need to whine, suck it up and think how good you'll feel when work is done and you can go rest.

I’m a retired Navy Command Fitness Leader. The Navy instruction allows PT during working hours, so why not let you do the 1600 PT? Maybe it is different in the Army, they aren’t too smart, especially in the leadership department. I hear all the stories of toxic leadership and favoritism, it’s sad really. If you’re not deployed, there’s no reason for them to act like they are under fire in Afghanistan. Take care of your people and they will take care of you.

I have read a bunch of "you don't have what it takes..." and "wah, stop your crying, you pussy" posts, and I have to call bullshit on that. From what I'm getting you are doing what you are told, but are asking for advice on how better to handle this situation and if there is anything you can do to make it better. Albeit that you know you have to suck it up and do it no matter what, I give you kudos for reaching out to find out if any of us old salts might have a better way or at least give advice on how to handle it. I am sorry to say that most of us "old salts" are simply older versions of your 1SG and can't see past our noses on how you might improve your situation or make it better for your juniors. Used to be that "old salts" could give sage advice without condescension. We are of the Father Knows Best era, too. We "old salts" should look deep into ourselves and see if we are just regurgitating what we heard back in the day or if we really are trying to be valuable to those who have taken up our mantle and want to give good, honest advice like we might have appreciated in our time. Most of us didn't have a forum where we could ask a host of retired and active mentors a question. If we were lucky we might meet a guy in a bar who might answer a few questions. This is really a good forum and something I wish I'd had back in the day. Hope everything turned out for the best.

Your authorized 4 hours of sleep. Go back read ucmj and do your job. You can sleep when you decide to not re up

Go to PT.

You brace up and do it.

is there a reason why you cant get some sleep after PT? That would be a large block of time to sleep in.

One word ...SOLDIER and I also remember getting no sleep and pulling through just fine and maybe just maybe this is not the career for you ijs

That was the norm when I was in. I got more sleep in the Navy on many nights than most of my nights since being on call all the time. I think it made me more ready to work in the hospital field.

Don't go and then file a complaint against him when he yells at you..Isn't that how the pussies in there do it now days in the "New Army"?

Suck it up cupcake. When I was in 'Nam there was one time were in constant contact for 88 days straight, and MAYBE got 2-3 hrs rest. If you can't do PT after 4-5 hrs of sleep, maybe you should be in the air force.