I am being told to go to PT by the command on only 4-5 hours of sleep. As a junior enlisted, how do I solve this problem?

You effing go and you are whining.

as far as army regs your screwed no where does it state you need more then 4 hours sleep with only 2 hours being consecutive

suck it up and do PT

Alright, since you’ve primarily gotten flack I’ll tell you how to approach it.

You’ve got an NCO support channel, use it! If that fails use the open door policy.

Just be prepared to offer a solution, not a gripe. An example of a solution would be to have whoever is senior on your shift run a PT session either two hours prior to your shift or an hour after.

The leadership should be LEADING and that takes putting the mission first. The mission, in your shifts case, requires soldiers who can perform the mission safely for the patients they are caring for. Interrupted sleep patterns are not what is best.

At the same time PT during the heat of the day is not the safest time to be running, nor is the middle of the night. That may be where the 1SG is coming from. Our PT formations were at 0600 for the 0630 start time, 0530 seems really early.

You go to PT. End of discussion.

Christ, what has our military turned into?

The replies to this post made my head hurt. All i see is lazy leadership. I'm glad im 11 years removed from this kind of thoughtlessness. Do what you gotta do. The civilian sector is going to pay you double and you'll probably be at the same hospital on a day shift.

You get to PT formation!
When I was AD, we were told that we would always get a minimum 5hrs of sleep a day.
No one, and I mean no one promised they would be 5 consecutive hours.
Tou say that you don't want to sound like you're whining.
That is in fact what you are doing.
Do your job, which as lower/junior enlisted is: Be where you're told to be, when you're told to be there and in the correct uniform.

The military only has to allow you 4hrs of sleep and it doesnt have to be cumulative

I also worked "odd" shifts when I was active duty for most of my time in the Army. Performing on less sleep, or in inadequate conditions or with inadequate supplies, was considered part of our training. I would respectfully go back to your platoon sergeant and present your situation again, making sure you are not whining. Ask permission to speak to the First Sergeant. You don't mention how many days a week it is, etc. If it's 5 days a week for the foreseeable future, you will need to do something to get more sleep. I believe most First Sergeants would help you find a solution if your platoon sergeant is unable to do so.

Here's a really blunt answer... your 1sg is an idiot and your PL and PSG are spineless. Yeah yeah "don't talk about leadership blah blah blah.". Yes, you can manage your time and sleep up to 6 hours (wow) mid morning to afternoon. Sure. Because that's super sustainable when it becomes your job to treat people and using the best judgment to do so. The "suck it up" answers here are but he same clown mentality that gives you the toxic leadership you're facing now, in the future. Can you do something about it? Not much. Can you get in another field that takes rest cycles a little more serious? Absolutely. I hope your field isn't crying about retention with that kind of management. Erratic schedules put the onus of physical fitness on the individual. Can you pass a pt test? Height/weight? Great! No? Then personal management isn't your thing and you get processed out. Sorry about your luck miss, I hope you look forward to a reclass instead of just saying "f**k it I'm out". The grown adult ego babies managing you should be ashamed.

Are you kidding? I had to get out of bed, put on my flight suit and go fly. No breakfast, no clothes just hoping we had coffee on the airplane. Where in the hell were we going? Florida, That's where. CUBAN CRISIS. The life of a TANKER crew. The life of a military man is NOT a piece of cake. That is why--and how we EARN our benefits.

This is just my two cents worth. I don't know if you are in combat arms and this may only really apply if you are.
It is important to be able to fight at full speed thru any level of tired in combat and training when tired is the only way to build up that skill.

Suck it up and go train! Then are no timeouts in combat! Your in the army now rest is to be taken whenever you can find it and fight thru the fatigue and still preform!

If you are not in combat arms you may live by a different standard and then I am sorry and have no reference to help you. Sorry

Sorry for your lack of sleep. I worked 12 hour shifts , came back to my base camp, ate some C-rations and pulled Sgt of the guard for another 8 hr. Then another 8 hr shift then 6 hr of sleep. I humped the bush for 8 hr. Then worked 2 hour shifts on and off for 10 more hours then humped 8 hr then 2 hr shift for 2 weeks. Grow up to what you signed up for. Sorry been there done that!

You suck it up. Went to the 7th Army NCO academy in Bad Tolz Germany for 28 days Training 1966. UP at 4 AM. bed by 12 or 1 PM. after all your studies and duties. Complete and utter craziness. Hallways floor was not walked on except along a small tile border as it was literally spit polished with Kiwi black shoe polish. That tells you the purposeful sort of harassments and nonsense that one had to endure in order to graduate and not go back to your unit having "Gigged" out. You'll survive you are young and like most things it will most likely pass.

Suck it up buttercup, as an MP that worked 19:00-07:00. Before shift meet at the PMO and do PT in a group. During shift I picked up a shit storm. At 13:00 I finished the paperwork and all the tickets and log. At 17:00 was PT. I was asked if I would be there? I ask do I have a choice? The SGT advised that the question was a trick question. So in bed by 14:00, up at 16:00, PT 17:00-18:00, 18:30 shower at the PMO and on shift 19:00 with a smile. Suck it up. You fight as you train and you should be training to fight!

Up and at em...this is what you signed up for

It's hard to read all the "suck it up" comments. It's absolutely true a deployment or emergency requires military members to do all sorts of things out of the ordinary, including catching only a few minutes sleep when it's available. However, that should not be the norm for a unit that is not deployed. Unit leadership should be about taking care of the mission and the personnel. It isn't rocket science to understand that taking care of your personnel is how your mission succeeds. Regularly expecting your personnel to show up for any mandatory event with 4-5 hours of sleep is a great way to 1) have an accident or fatality due to fatigue 2) have a medical error that causes a code in the hospital 3) develop a retention problem as your personnel realize good leaders don't screw with their personnel this way unless it's an emergency. It's great that the unit has two PT sessions scheduled that are convenient for folks on day shift. Why not add a couple more to take care of the folks on the other two shifts? "Just because it's always been done that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid."

If your situation is due to mission requirements then get with your NCO’s and figure out a PT plan around your mission requirements

I forget who originally said this but the more you sweat in training the less you bleed in war

Spc. How can I say this delicately?
Awww screw it.pull up your big boy pants and goto put. If that's the worst thing happening you're good to go. I've done worse with less sleep. I'm pretty sure you went through basic and at one point you didn't get 4-5 hrs sleep in 2-3days. At least I didn't back in 88. The ARMY has changed. Getting soft.