Posted on Jul 22, 2016
I have a buddy who recently joined AD and wants to switch to reserves. Is this possible?
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He's OCONUS and has mentioned he will purposely fail a PT test, and I talked him out of it. He wants to move to the Reserves, but from the looks of it, he CANNOT. He heard what he needed to hear and the consequences of Malingering. I appreciate the responses, but any answer after this edit, will not be read by myself.
He's OCONUS and has mentioned he will purposely fail a PT test, and I talked him out of it. He wants to move to the Reserves, but from the looks of it, he CANNOT. He heard what he needed to hear and the consequences of Malingering. I appreciate the responses, but any answer after this edit, will not be read by myself.
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 104
Plus, the Reserves don't just take anyone. Even if he tells them why he wanted out, what does it tell them about his commitment issues? I wouldn't accept him. He probably wouldn't show up for Drill or AT.
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I certainly hope not!! One trouble with society today is that people sign and then no longer want to honor their obligations-I've found that in my military career those that fail in the military general y fail in life!!
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It's very easy to go from Active to Reserve you just have to have patience and wait for his term to be up then reenlist as reserve.
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This is a huge problem throughout the army and its the NCOs who no longer want to put in the effort to try and motivate these soldiers he obviously wanted to be in at some point he just needs some guidance and discipline to regain that drive again no to be kicked out and let to essentially get screwed by big army I don't know the whole situation and I understand there are some lost causes out there but it's still worth a shot to atleast try to motivate him
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It is entirely possible if his 1st Sergeant will sign off on it. If he's a shit bag though, which I assume he could be, it's not gonna happen.
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There are always openings in the DB for those who don't want to Soldier! You can check the book, 'From Here To Eternity' for examples!
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Let him flunk and get booted. An OTH or General will get you far in life. Maybe Assistant manager of a 7-11.
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Sure, he can fail his PT. And get bounced out completely, without chance of Reserve time. Or, he can do his Active tour and enlist in the Reserves. There's a reason it's called a contract.
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He should do like one of my NCOIC's did. He got Fat Boyed out of the Army went right to the USAF recruiter and was in like Flynn. Hell they gave him a stripe to E-5. Sent him to Travis for a month of medical refreshers. Then up to Elmendorf AFB, where he became our NCOIC. He was replaced 3 months later much to our relief. Then 6 months later he was Fat Boyed out of the USAF.
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What a turd, he should be embarrassed to be a non hacker, a guy who falls out on runs etc, whether intentionally or can't do it. it's not like the PT requirements are daunting IMO they're very minimal. He'd be a disgrace in back in the day, he might even get his ass kicked a bit. I'd cycle him completely out with a general discharge, and be done with the worthless shit. Why keep him in and get someone innocent hurt?
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From the other responses. I see a bunch of A-Holes. you are ht reason that people want to get out. You make the Army what it is and if you are the A-Holes you are in the is board then you are the one at fault not this guy who doesn't want to be there. You are the reason I got out. If you can not take a soldier and make him/her into the best they can be then you failed and you do deserve the rank you were.
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Why are we giving advised to bonehead who don't want to stay active. Hell let him screw himself up and his life. I hope he fail and kick out.
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Most commanders in the reserves won't take him if he is flagged. Also, if he is 11B he will have to reclassify... But he is flagged... No school for him. Dead weight.
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This almost sounds like a mindset similar to that disgraceful Bergdahl. Don't think I would want any part of this young troop, if he, in fact, has not the basic fortitude to honor his voluntary committment. Have seen other comments, by wiser and sager voices than mine, but then again, none of us are there to see to this young troop. That is what it is going to take, senior intervention and management by his chain of command.
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First off it's not so easy to just get out of AD because you don't like it. Did you even read your contract that you signed? It was you who raised your right hand and took the oath right? Well your buddy, not you - sorry. Anyway, you must toughen up and just do your best - don't just give up because you don't like it - stick with it and fulfill your obligation and then see where you are at the end of that. Maybe you should've done your homework and tested the waters by joining the Guard or REserves first? Well too late for that now isn't it? Just be positive, focus on what is in front of you and do your best - don't give up!! It's not only you that you are letting down, it's your Country.
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A Soldier like that needs to be seperated from the rest of the herd and put into another position where he can't infect others. I won't really consider the risk of having him around when the risks are high, especially on deployment if he has that mentality in garrison.
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When I was in Germany in 1968, we had a PFC that wanted out. He was in the ASA which was a 4 year enlistment at the time. He tried everything from acting crazy to goofing off. The CO told him that he signed up for four years and he was going to serve EVERY day of it - no way out. And, if he kept it up, he would just get more lousy details and maybe spend the balance of the 4 years in the stockade. I left Germany a few months after that and never did learn what happened to him.
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Hank Fackovec
ASA EM back then were typically college educated, and from a buddy of mine who was an NCO in ASA at the time, they were a pain in the ass to manage.
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SSG Gerald King
I spent 10 1/2 years in the ASA. And, yes many had a college education, but there were also a lot of us who did not. We were just smarter than the average soldier. I was recruited by the ASA out of high school due to scoring exceptionally high on the Armed Forces Entrance Exam. I was planning on joining the Navy until the ASA recruiter got a hold me. And, also, we were not your typical Army soldiers. We knew our job, did it very well, but didn't have time to play the Army games.
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