Posted on Jul 22, 2016
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He's OCONUS and has mentioned he will purposely fail a PT test, and I talked him out of it. He wants to move to the Reserves, but from the looks of it, he CANNOT. He heard what he needed to hear and the consequences of Malingering. I appreciate the responses, but any answer after this edit, will not be read by myself.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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What a turd, he should be embarrassed to be a non hacker, a guy who falls out on runs etc, whether intentionally or can't do it. it's not like the PT requirements are daunting IMO they're very minimal. He'd be a disgrace in back in the day, he might even get his ass kicked a bit. I'd cycle him completely out with a general discharge, and be done with the worthless shit. Why keep him in and get someone innocent hurt?
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SPC(P) Information Security (Is) Analyst
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*he said he would like to take that route*
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SSG (ret) William Martin
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Your friend needs to adult up and complete his contract.
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SP5 James P
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From the other responses. I see a bunch of A-Holes. you are ht reason that people want to get out. You make the Army what it is and if you are the A-Holes you are in the is board then you are the one at fault not this guy who doesn't want to be there. You are the reason I got out. If you can not take a soldier and make him/her into the best they can be then you failed and you do deserve the rank you were.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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Why are we giving advised to bonehead who don't want to stay active. Hell let him screw himself up and his life. I hope he fail and kick out.
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MAJ Logistics Officer (S4)
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Most commanders in the reserves won't take him if he is flagged. Also, if he is 11B he will have to reclassify... But he is flagged... No school for him. Dead weight.
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CW3 Doyle Frost
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This almost sounds like a mindset similar to that disgraceful Bergdahl. Don't think I would want any part of this young troop, if he, in fact, has not the basic fortitude to honor his voluntary committment. Have seen other comments, by wiser and sager voices than mine, but then again, none of us are there to see to this young troop. That is what it is going to take, senior intervention and management by his chain of command.
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CW3 Human Resources Technician
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First off it's not so easy to just get out of AD because you don't like it. Did you even read your contract that you signed? It was you who raised your right hand and took the oath right? Well your buddy, not you - sorry. Anyway, you must toughen up and just do your best - don't just give up because you don't like it - stick with it and fulfill your obligation and then see where you are at the end of that. Maybe you should've done your homework and tested the waters by joining the Guard or REserves first? Well too late for that now isn't it? Just be positive, focus on what is in front of you and do your best - don't give up!! It's not only you that you are letting down, it's your Country.
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CPT Infantry Officer
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A Soldier like that needs to be seperated from the rest of the herd and put into another position where he can't infect others. I won't really consider the risk of having him around when the risks are high, especially on deployment if he has that mentality in garrison.
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SSG Gerald King
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When I was in Germany in 1968, we had a PFC that wanted out. He was in the ASA which was a 4 year enlistment at the time. He tried everything from acting crazy to goofing off. The CO told him that he signed up for four years and he was going to serve EVERY day of it - no way out. And, if he kept it up, he would just get more lousy details and maybe spend the balance of the 4 years in the stockade. I left Germany a few months after that and never did learn what happened to him.
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Hank Fackovec
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ASA EM back then were typically college educated, and from a buddy of mine who was an NCO in ASA at the time, they were a pain in the ass to manage.
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SSG Gerald King
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I spent 10 1/2 years in the ASA. And, yes many had a college education, but there were also a lot of us who did not. We were just smarter than the average soldier. I was recruited by the ASA out of high school due to scoring exceptionally high on the Armed Forces Entrance Exam. I was planning on joining the Navy until the ASA recruiter got a hold me. And, also, we were not your typical Army soldiers. We knew our job, did it very well, but didn't have time to play the Army games.
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MSG Don H.
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“Whoever does not have the stomach for this fight, let him depart, give him his money to speed his departure, since we wish not to die in this man’s company."

-William Shakespeare, Henry V, Act IV Scene III.
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PO3 Machinist Mate
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Honestly, there's only two ways to get out of the military without ruining your career chances, and that's by waiting until your contract is up or retirement. In my case it was medical retirement. However, the modern military suffers from horrific morale and dismal pay, let alone the physical demands on the body. Leadership need to address this and stop being lazy. I was always plagued with poor leadership that were always looking for an excuse not to do their jobs.
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PO3 Jeff Webster
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Coming from someone who didn't have the choice. I was discharged after failing to many consecutive PFT's. This was not due to laziness or wanting to get out. I had sustained a shoulder injury in May of 2005. Underwent physical therapy had waivers and still could not perform to standards. I still was honorably discharged but only because of the circumstances. So essentially let your fucking balls drop be a man and get on the ball or they're going to slam you out with a OTH discharge and than it can follow you around the rest of your life
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MSG Andrew White
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HE IS A LOSER!!! HE WANTS CIVILIAN LIFE!!! HE TOOK A SPOT FROM SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO SERVE!! SEND HIM TO BE A COOK!!! HE WILL REALLY HATE HIMSELF!!!
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Sgt Charles Welling
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He signed the line, he should have the honor to do what he committed to. Maybe honor is the problem. Oorah!
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Col Rebecca Lorraine
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Great advice to your buddy. That is a great way to take care of each other. That is what makes our military so awesome most of the time!
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SGT Living Life
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As an NCO, I would be wondering what brought him to the point that he feels he must leave the service. What is going on with the soldier and can the issues be fixed to give him a better outlook and maybe help him strive to do his best? Sit down with the soldier and talk to him. Most of the time there are underlying issues that cause someone to get to the point of wanting out.

His leader should be mentoring and encouraging him and if there are other problems, they need to be brought to the surface with his leadership. If the problem stems from his leadership, he needs to use the open door policy to the next higher person in his NCO support chain and if that fails, start moving up the chain of command.
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CMSgt Mike Esser
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Sounds like he needs a good mentor to help him with his oath and some career planning.
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SSG Rotc Instructor
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He's seven months into his first contract. So counting his OSUT, he's roughly around 4 months into his first duty station. Of course it sucks. Units are tough on the new Privates. Just keep your nose clean, do what you're supposed to do, stay motivated, and things will get better in time.
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A1C Peter Anthony
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Suck it up and act like a man! This is the real world ! Not high school!!! You should be proud to serve active duty for the finest army in the world and an infantryman on top of that!
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