Posted on Feb 14, 2015
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Religious questions/discussions have/are causing problems in RP. Most responses/comments are respectful; however, some posts are not and members are personally attacking other members.

If this issue is not dealt with expeditiously, RP stands to lose a lot of good members. We have plenty of other topics - ban all religious topics.

Edit as of 6,976 views, 1,228 votes and 491 responses/comments:

My intent with this question was to engage RP members in a discussion concerning in what I believe to be an increasing trend of unprofessional and disrespectful comments. I wanted people to arrive at the conclusion that banning a topic was not the answer, but rather doing something about the individuals making the unprofessional and/or disrespectful comments. In addition to that, I was hoping many members would not only identify the problem being individuals, but also come up with suggestions about how to deal with those individuals.

It is more than having a thick skin - we all have a military background and know what it means to be professional and respectful - it is my opinion there is no room here for members to be threatened, taunted or belittled. We can discuss any topic, agree to disagree, and verbalize our opinion or point of view without having to go there.

I realize there are already ways to report members on RP. Getting additional ideas and suggestions for improvements can never hurt, and most importantly, if we would police our own, giving down votes on unprofessional/disrespectful comments, and calling these individuals out, we can hopefully get them to change their behavior or help RP admins identify the ones who might need to take a break or be banned.

Last and certainly no the least, I am a devoted Christian, and would never support a ban on any topic. I know my question said that, but go back and read why I did it that way.
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SPC Randy Stotler
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I'm lost! Maybe I missed something here? There are many open discussions in progress on R P and one individual speaks out against s rational discussion against religion? I must inform those that are offended by the "RELIGIOUS" topic that you simply do not have to take part or even read the comments being left. Simply for once in your life choose not to be offended! Otherwise I may have to start being offended by your intolerance and lodge complaints against you and those like you that think the first amendment only pertains to you and the topics you deem appropriate. Please have a glorious day and GOD BLESS!
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MSgt Norman Chaney
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I would support such a ban. I am tired of being told what I should believe. I do not come here to be preached at !! Do you ??
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SGT Bryon Sergent
SGT Bryon Sergent
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MSgt I have been on this site for a long time and have never seen a thread that preached anything! I have seen some discussions, but never a sermon. On that not while we are at it lets ban the NON RELIGIOUS comments as well. IF I can't mention the fact that I have a God then you or anyone else can't speak that there ISN"T a God, or Allah, Budda, or whoever else. No POlictics, guns, family, or......
Shoot far as that goes let's just shut RP down because if everyone banned something they didn't like here then we wouldn't have this WONDERFUL outlet to seek what we came here for!
Though freedom of speech was one of the things that we fight for in this country that we have served!
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LTC John Wilson
LTC John Wilson
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Then Like I said in a previous post, you have free will or choice and just move on to another topic. You don't "Have" to read each and every post on Rally Point.
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SSG Air Space Manager
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I wouldn't mind banning the topic sans Chaplain or their Religious support team's official business or related convos. Even the Chapy and their assistants need places to connect.
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CPL George Mann Jr
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I can agree with that. unfortunately religion is like a short fuse on a high explosive. I personally don't judge a person by their religion.
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LTC John Wilson
LTC John Wilson
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Because there is more to a person than just their religion. Like first impressions can be changed over time.
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CPL George Mann Jr
CPL George Mann Jr
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LTC Wilson: that sir is a very true statement, one that I experience frequently. Most of the time the first impression turns out not to be as sour as first assumed.
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SGT Kevin Flynn
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Religious and Political conversations are usually removed from forums like this not for dislike of the topic but for respect for an ambiguous community and how it may develop into a one sided community shunning everyone while it needs to remain welcoming for all.
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SSG Robert Burns
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I think that would qualify this question as well. I'm just saying.
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Cpl Ehr Specialist
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I think this is a great topic for a thread. This subtly draws out pent up angst and frustration from many about not so subtle attacks on many threads. The problem I see with both the question and the very deep meaning presented in not just the aspect of religion, is that many here take their responses on topics they are passionate about to a personal level. This then changes the tenor/tone of the thread from one of development and information sharing to one of proselytize and disparagement. Healthy discourse demands that there be open "discussion" regarding differing ideas/ideals. When one side decides they are no longer willing to respect a differing idea/ideals, healthy discourse is no longer available. This is a social media site for Military professionals both past and present, primarily designed to assist those who are seeking professional development and mentorship. I do not see how proselytizing and disparaging others beliefs accomplishes that goal. Then again, we were all born with free will, we choose to engage or not engage and suffer the consequences of our decisions. I have long since decided to by-pass "those" threads (you know which they are) that have gone well past the healthy discourse phase. Those who continue to beat their heads against the same wall as their antagonist are welcome to it. I will take my free will and join a meme war or discuss why I think I am a good leader etc.

Leave RP as an open forum and allow everyone to exercise their free will in by-passing those threads which they do not care to frequent.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
SGT Bryon Sergent
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CPL Hicks are you an attorney? lol
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Cpl Ehr Specialist
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SGT Bryon Sergent not an attorney just a concerned and engaged veteran
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SPC Stewart Smith
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Sounds like you are trying to not just limit, but ban free speech.

I propose more religious discussions. It will be good to get everything out in the open.
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SGT Infantryman (Airborne)
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Religious discussions and politics will never have everything out in the open. There is always an argument. That's why I stay out of those discussions. It's all personal preference and nothing anyone says will change that.
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SSG Trevor S.
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I'm not going to vote you down, you are expressing your opinion under an amendment to the Constitution that I protected. You and I both ensured that right. But, please let me ask you to never propose to restrict one of my rights again.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
SGT Bryon Sergent
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Sir I disagree that would be still infringing on my 1st amendment right.
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LTC Strategic Plans And Training Officer
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No, God bless you.
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