Posted on Apr 6, 2023
Will I get in trouble if I recently graduated airborne school and will be sent to my unit, but I no longer want to be airborne?
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I am deeply scared of jumping out an airplane what consequences will I face for wanting to drop airborne status?
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I would like to offer you a couple more perspectives. First, your maturity in how you communicate this will influence the decision of your leadership. You're a Soldier now, that's your life. And as you have said, you are still capable of serving your country. Communicate to your leadership that you understand and accept the responsibilities of being an Airborne Soldier, but you now realize that you have a problem in fulfilling your duties. Accepting consequences of our failures is noble, but it should always be done alongside the request for help. This is strength, not weakness. Anyone who says otherwise and strictly ascribes to the age-old motto of "come to me with solutions, not problems" has not matured very far as a leader, and may actually be full of crap.
This problem of yours is fear and you're not sure you can overcome it, but you are sure that you still want to serve. This is one of the oldest problems in all of American military service. A great Soldier by the name of David Hackworth (look him up) compared fear in himself and his men to a bottle. Every man is like a bottle, he said. Their bottle gets filled up with fear throughout their time in the military. Now, some bottles are bigger than others and can hold a little more, but everyone has a limit. If we as Soldiers ever become filled with enough fear that it exceeds what we can hold, then we breakdown. We become completely useless until we can take a knee and empty our bottles of all the fear we accumulated. However, once that happens, we are never the same again. No matter how great of a warrior we were, once we have experienced this complete filling of fear past our limit, we become like a spent cartridge. We may still be able to do our jobs to some extent, but we have lost our effectiveness. There's no more bang, it's gone. In other words, a spent cartridge. Taking Hackworth's thoughts further, I would argue that this is simply part of the human condition. We're not super heroes.
You're a private, you are not expected to have all the answers. You are expected to know your job and do your job. If you're honest about your struggle here and show the value of your character, then your leadership may find an alternate route for you other than separation or even better, work with you to overcome your fear, and support and protect you as you work through this. Some may apply pressure to try and kick you out off the bat, you won't survive this pressure without support from your leadership.
Realize this is as well, you are absolutely, guaranteed, 100% not the only Soldier who is scared out of their mind every time they jump out of a plane. You are not the first, you won't be the last. Dive into the pride of your achievements so far. You chose a selfless and courageous path to be Airborne, let alone be in the Army. This is a healthy pride as long as it doesn't lead to arrogance. And pride is a hell of a tool in facing our fears. Being stubborn is an admirable quality in Soldiers when used correctly. To that end, learn of and embrace the dark humor of Soldiers, especially Airborne Soldiers. Humor is another tool we use to deal with our lives in the military. Memorize the song Blood on the Risers and sing that to yourself on jump days. It's a song of pride sure, but it also has a dark sense of humor. There's nothing wrong with joking about fear and death. It's healthy too. Laugh at your fear, laugh at yourself. Tease yourself with your friends and joke about the craziness of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane... then jump, fall, crash into the Earth, go home, and drink a beer. Jump days can be some of the most beautiful days in your career if you let them. Hackworth shares a story in one of his books how a friend of his, the day before he retired, just wanted to jump out of a helicopter as many times as he could. They spent the whole day in a bird just jumping, up they flew and down they jumped, until their bodies were too sore to walk.
One last thing. Go talk to your Chaplain, like now. Contact them and ask to set up a meeting. Fear is connected to the human spirit. The Chaplain's job is to help keep your spirit strong. If you're unit chaplain is no-good for you, find one in another unit that is. Talking about this with the Chap may be good for you. At a minimum, the Chaplain could coach you through it. It is always a good thing to have a Chaplain aware of your problems and encouraging you through them, rooting for your success. If you learn this now as a private, you will be better equipped to teach it to your Soldiers when you become a leader and they need the same thing.
Hope this helps.
This problem of yours is fear and you're not sure you can overcome it, but you are sure that you still want to serve. This is one of the oldest problems in all of American military service. A great Soldier by the name of David Hackworth (look him up) compared fear in himself and his men to a bottle. Every man is like a bottle, he said. Their bottle gets filled up with fear throughout their time in the military. Now, some bottles are bigger than others and can hold a little more, but everyone has a limit. If we as Soldiers ever become filled with enough fear that it exceeds what we can hold, then we breakdown. We become completely useless until we can take a knee and empty our bottles of all the fear we accumulated. However, once that happens, we are never the same again. No matter how great of a warrior we were, once we have experienced this complete filling of fear past our limit, we become like a spent cartridge. We may still be able to do our jobs to some extent, but we have lost our effectiveness. There's no more bang, it's gone. In other words, a spent cartridge. Taking Hackworth's thoughts further, I would argue that this is simply part of the human condition. We're not super heroes.
You're a private, you are not expected to have all the answers. You are expected to know your job and do your job. If you're honest about your struggle here and show the value of your character, then your leadership may find an alternate route for you other than separation or even better, work with you to overcome your fear, and support and protect you as you work through this. Some may apply pressure to try and kick you out off the bat, you won't survive this pressure without support from your leadership.
Realize this is as well, you are absolutely, guaranteed, 100% not the only Soldier who is scared out of their mind every time they jump out of a plane. You are not the first, you won't be the last. Dive into the pride of your achievements so far. You chose a selfless and courageous path to be Airborne, let alone be in the Army. This is a healthy pride as long as it doesn't lead to arrogance. And pride is a hell of a tool in facing our fears. Being stubborn is an admirable quality in Soldiers when used correctly. To that end, learn of and embrace the dark humor of Soldiers, especially Airborne Soldiers. Humor is another tool we use to deal with our lives in the military. Memorize the song Blood on the Risers and sing that to yourself on jump days. It's a song of pride sure, but it also has a dark sense of humor. There's nothing wrong with joking about fear and death. It's healthy too. Laugh at your fear, laugh at yourself. Tease yourself with your friends and joke about the craziness of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane... then jump, fall, crash into the Earth, go home, and drink a beer. Jump days can be some of the most beautiful days in your career if you let them. Hackworth shares a story in one of his books how a friend of his, the day before he retired, just wanted to jump out of a helicopter as many times as he could. They spent the whole day in a bird just jumping, up they flew and down they jumped, until their bodies were too sore to walk.
One last thing. Go talk to your Chaplain, like now. Contact them and ask to set up a meeting. Fear is connected to the human spirit. The Chaplain's job is to help keep your spirit strong. If you're unit chaplain is no-good for you, find one in another unit that is. Talking about this with the Chap may be good for you. At a minimum, the Chaplain could coach you through it. It is always a good thing to have a Chaplain aware of your problems and encouraging you through them, rooting for your success. If you learn this now as a private, you will be better equipped to teach it to your Soldiers when you become a leader and they need the same thing.
Hope this helps.
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Sgt Ed Allen
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney - The sense of humor needs to actually be humorous. With the perceived attack on Christianity and the constant attack on prayer, the statement loses its levity.
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1LT Pat Caley the answer you gave is one that very few senior officers could give. Makes me proud to have officers like you looking after our Army.
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CPT Kenneth Losey
Damn, 1LT (Join to see), that was a good answer and even better advice. I went through jump school in 1978 and it was both scary and exhilarating at the same time. On day one of jump week, we approached the drop zone and a jumpmaster died (at least that's what we were told) testing winds - so we turned around. Day two, I remember thinking "what the hell am I doing?!?" as I approached the door. Luckily, I had three perfect jumps before dislocating my shoulder on the fourth. My roommate was a medic who taped me up for the 5th jump with my parents (who had driven from Northern KY) watching from below. I was ROTC and was eventually branched Armor, so I never had to face duty as a paratrooper. But I can understand that fear can be hard to overcome if you had a bad experience in jump school. I can also say that getting those wings was one of my proudest achievements and the fact that I had to overcome fear and injury to do it made it sweeter. I hope PFC (Join to see) can overcome his fears and serve with distinction. Overcoming fear is a habit every soldier must master.
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LTC Paul Rivette
PFC (Join to see) -
PFC Alex Chaves-Almanza - That is a very mature and honorable way of facing this problem. I encourage you continue with this tour and do your best. You have probably 2 years and maybe 15-20 jumps to get thru and then you can reassign to a non-airborne unit.
You cannot avoid the jumps (short of refusal / reassignment) and the fear is real but dont let the fear define you. Fear is usually based in uncertainty and loss of control. Take control over the jump - focus on what YOU can do to make the jump safe and tone down the fear. Be physically fit, pay attention to all the pre-jump refresher training and KNOW it so you can be in control both in the air and as you hit the ground no matter what happens. Know your buddies you jump with and let them encourage / uplift you. Know the mission (or at least the DZ plan) so you can think about what you will do once you get on the ground while doing all the waiting. Use your FAITH - God really is in control. Trust HIM to take care of you.
All that said if you really have too much trouble on the next jumps then be honest and seek reassignment. Dont wait for the panic to be too much and you are holding up a stick so some jump master ends up bumping you out the door. Do it on the ground, calmly and rationally. Enlist the aid of your Chaplain and a medical doctor and respectfully request reassignment. If you have braved a couple of jumps with your unit then you are not running from a crazy fear but facing a simple reality of your personal being. And doing it in a way that wont hurt the mission like an on-plane freak-out.
Thank you for standing up to serve in uniform and to take on the Airborne challenge. Good luck to you, and a Brave Heart!!!
PFC Alex Chaves-Almanza - That is a very mature and honorable way of facing this problem. I encourage you continue with this tour and do your best. You have probably 2 years and maybe 15-20 jumps to get thru and then you can reassign to a non-airborne unit.
You cannot avoid the jumps (short of refusal / reassignment) and the fear is real but dont let the fear define you. Fear is usually based in uncertainty and loss of control. Take control over the jump - focus on what YOU can do to make the jump safe and tone down the fear. Be physically fit, pay attention to all the pre-jump refresher training and KNOW it so you can be in control both in the air and as you hit the ground no matter what happens. Know your buddies you jump with and let them encourage / uplift you. Know the mission (or at least the DZ plan) so you can think about what you will do once you get on the ground while doing all the waiting. Use your FAITH - God really is in control. Trust HIM to take care of you.
All that said if you really have too much trouble on the next jumps then be honest and seek reassignment. Dont wait for the panic to be too much and you are holding up a stick so some jump master ends up bumping you out the door. Do it on the ground, calmly and rationally. Enlist the aid of your Chaplain and a medical doctor and respectfully request reassignment. If you have braved a couple of jumps with your unit then you are not running from a crazy fear but facing a simple reality of your personal being. And doing it in a way that wont hurt the mission like an on-plane freak-out.
Thank you for standing up to serve in uniform and to take on the Airborne challenge. Good luck to you, and a Brave Heart!!!
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I am not a psychologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....
I think there is more going on under the surface than you are saying. It is entirely possible this is because you don't even realize it yourself (or you could just not want to discuss on an open forum). Because, taken at face value, your post makes no sense at all.
Airborne is one of the VERY few assignment that you can ONLY get by volunteering. You ASKED to go to jump school. You ASKED for an airborne assignment. After the Army gave you what you asked for, NOW you are scared of jumping out of airplanes?
There are four points in time when you could have developed this fear:
1) Before volunteering
2) After volunteering, but before jump school
3) During jump school
4) After jump school
In case #1, why the heck did you volunteer?
In #s 2 and 3, why did you COMPLETE jump school?
And for all 3, if your fear was so deep, how did you manage to complete jump school?
None of those are rational situations.
But for #4, there is no rational reason why, after having successfully completed jump school (and presumedly doing so without serious injury, as you still have your jump status), you would develop this fear AFTERWARDS.
Unless, of course, there is something else going on which is generating or intensifying this fear - or there is an entirely different fear which is using the fear of jumping as a mask.
I do not know the answers. But hopefully this will give you some things to reflect upon and find your own answers. Maybe that can help either overcome the fear or guide your path forward - at a minimum, it will help you answer the VERY tough questions coming your way if you DO decide to refuse to jump.
I wish you the best of luck as you work your way forward. But I highlynrecommend before you make any decisions, you do some serious soul-searching and figure out how you got here and where you REALLY want to go.
Bear in mind, I am not airborne, never was. I completely understand airborne ain't for everyone - including me! So there is no judgment here.
I think there is more going on under the surface than you are saying. It is entirely possible this is because you don't even realize it yourself (or you could just not want to discuss on an open forum). Because, taken at face value, your post makes no sense at all.
Airborne is one of the VERY few assignment that you can ONLY get by volunteering. You ASKED to go to jump school. You ASKED for an airborne assignment. After the Army gave you what you asked for, NOW you are scared of jumping out of airplanes?
There are four points in time when you could have developed this fear:
1) Before volunteering
2) After volunteering, but before jump school
3) During jump school
4) After jump school
In case #1, why the heck did you volunteer?
In #s 2 and 3, why did you COMPLETE jump school?
And for all 3, if your fear was so deep, how did you manage to complete jump school?
None of those are rational situations.
But for #4, there is no rational reason why, after having successfully completed jump school (and presumedly doing so without serious injury, as you still have your jump status), you would develop this fear AFTERWARDS.
Unless, of course, there is something else going on which is generating or intensifying this fear - or there is an entirely different fear which is using the fear of jumping as a mask.
I do not know the answers. But hopefully this will give you some things to reflect upon and find your own answers. Maybe that can help either overcome the fear or guide your path forward - at a minimum, it will help you answer the VERY tough questions coming your way if you DO decide to refuse to jump.
I wish you the best of luck as you work your way forward. But I highlynrecommend before you make any decisions, you do some serious soul-searching and figure out how you got here and where you REALLY want to go.
Bear in mind, I am not airborne, never was. I completely understand airborne ain't for everyone - including me! So there is no judgment here.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
SFC. CASEY O'MALLY.?
ALL I Can Say About Your Comments Is,
"LMAO, That's Some FUNNY Sh*t"
YUP, That's About It.!!
ALL I Can Say About Your Comments Is,
"LMAO, That's Some FUNNY Sh*t"
YUP, That's About It.!!
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1SG Ernest Stull
If it's your wife or girlfriend wanting, you to not jump out of airplanes then tell her or whoever you morally accepted the commitment, and you must complete your obligation you can request reassignment after your enlistment is up if you decide you do not want to jump out of planes anymore. Once you quit you will continue down the same path when the road gets harder you will quit and the quitting will never end. So when I say that I am not judging you I have personally been challenged beyond my limits and the thought of quitting never entered my mind b/c I would look to my front, rear ,left and right and I would see my fellow teammates looking at me and so I just continued to put one foot in front of the other and wiped the thoughts of quitting out of my mind and strove to be the best I could be. I will never quit even I be the lone survivor.
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1SG Ernest Stull
PFC (Join to see) - what are you inferring to when you say you have almost died by rifles and such.?
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
Very well said.
However, fear is a very strange thing. You get that sense of doom and gloom, and the world changes. Was it a bad jump? Did he see someone spirl out and die?
I never had the opportunity to go "airborne". Where I have always wanted to try it, i didn't really have the desire to go there. My step daughter is a rigger, and skydives for fun. She has had her fair share of bad jumps. For some it powers them on, others it destroys them.
I had a friend who was air-assault, but was deathly afraid of heights. Sometimes the fear of failinging over-rides, ones sense of self preservation.
It happens.
For the PFC, I suggest taking it to your chain of command. I recommend you seriously think it out first, because once you start the ball rollong, you might not be able to turn back.
I have known many airborne and air assault's that were in non specialised slots. Don't forget, you also have the option of trying to reclass.
However, fear is a very strange thing. You get that sense of doom and gloom, and the world changes. Was it a bad jump? Did he see someone spirl out and die?
I never had the opportunity to go "airborne". Where I have always wanted to try it, i didn't really have the desire to go there. My step daughter is a rigger, and skydives for fun. She has had her fair share of bad jumps. For some it powers them on, others it destroys them.
I had a friend who was air-assault, but was deathly afraid of heights. Sometimes the fear of failinging over-rides, ones sense of self preservation.
It happens.
For the PFC, I suggest taking it to your chain of command. I recommend you seriously think it out first, because once you start the ball rollong, you might not be able to turn back.
I have known many airborne and air assault's that were in non specialised slots. Don't forget, you also have the option of trying to reclass.
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Good Luck with that. Being afraid of something that will kill you is never stupid. I was afraid of being shot - I got over it. At least the terrifying aspects of it all. You have already qualified and your training will carry you through it as long as you practice. As for if it will end your career - that's your choice. As for myself I do not want someone with me that is unprepared to shoulder those burdens necessary to complete the missions given them.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
PFC (Join to see) -
LMAO..
Jump Out Of An Aircraft?
For ME To It, It Better Be On FIRE !!
,Caz' I Ain't Jump'en Out Of A Good Aircraft,
THAT Sh*t Just AIN'T Gonna Happen!
I'll Hang Onto A Wing, BEFORE I Go Down!, If I Have-ta
But I STILL Ain't Leave'n NO Aircraft When IT'S Off The Ground,
If I Can Find A Way To Avoid It.
LMAO..
Jump Out Of An Aircraft?
For ME To It, It Better Be On FIRE !!
,Caz' I Ain't Jump'en Out Of A Good Aircraft,
THAT Sh*t Just AIN'T Gonna Happen!
I'll Hang Onto A Wing, BEFORE I Go Down!, If I Have-ta
But I STILL Ain't Leave'n NO Aircraft When IT'S Off The Ground,
If I Can Find A Way To Avoid It.
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SSG Gordon Holmes
1SG Ernest Stull - I made about 30 jumps, even volunteering for all the extra jumps I could get. But all of them were night jumps except the last one. I enjoyed looking at the C-130's flying overhead as my chute was deploying. They did seem a little close though.
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1SG Ernest Stull
SSG Gordon Holmes - So right, one of my last jumps was from a C130, off the ramp 800 AGL I hit the ground like a sack of potatoes.
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PO1 Robert Ryan
New from the beginning I was afraid Heights. No airborne for me. Didn't mind being called a Leg.
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I served most of my career on jump status and I am terrified of heights. I went to Jumpmaster and earned my Master wings.
termination of airborne status is not an easy thing and you will not have an easy time doing it. But be forewarned. IF you terminate after you are manifested to jump that is considered a jump refusal and you will face UCMJ action. IF you terminate as a jump refusal in the air that is literally endangering other jumpers. At Fort Bragg in the 82d Airborne that will get very very ugly very very fast.
I would tell you that any paratrooper that says he or she is not scared up there is either a fool or lying. Give it a try. Airborne units are the best units in the Army. Airborne Troopers are the best Soldiers. All of them have one thing in common, they are all there because they volunteered twice.
IF and this is IF you decide to terminate, do it at Replacement BEFORE you get sent to your unit. It will save you, your unit and your gaining chain of command tons of grief. NOTHING will suck for a Squad Leader or Platoon sergeant more than getting a private that day one is a jump termini. Nothing will suck for you more than being that private that has terminated. When I say this believe it. NOTHING will suck for you more than being a jump refusal.
Being a paratrooper is AWESOME. Nothing that I have ever done besides becoming a father was more rewarding and it set the course for my entire life. I was, am and always will be a PARATROOPER.
termination of airborne status is not an easy thing and you will not have an easy time doing it. But be forewarned. IF you terminate after you are manifested to jump that is considered a jump refusal and you will face UCMJ action. IF you terminate as a jump refusal in the air that is literally endangering other jumpers. At Fort Bragg in the 82d Airborne that will get very very ugly very very fast.
I would tell you that any paratrooper that says he or she is not scared up there is either a fool or lying. Give it a try. Airborne units are the best units in the Army. Airborne Troopers are the best Soldiers. All of them have one thing in common, they are all there because they volunteered twice.
IF and this is IF you decide to terminate, do it at Replacement BEFORE you get sent to your unit. It will save you, your unit and your gaining chain of command tons of grief. NOTHING will suck for a Squad Leader or Platoon sergeant more than getting a private that day one is a jump termini. Nothing will suck for you more than being that private that has terminated. When I say this believe it. NOTHING will suck for you more than being a jump refusal.
Being a paratrooper is AWESOME. Nothing that I have ever done besides becoming a father was more rewarding and it set the course for my entire life. I was, am and always will be a PARATROOPER.
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Sgt Mervyn Russell
Well, you over came your fear every time you jumped. Doubt if I could have done that?
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There are numerous ways to master one's fears. Research the web. Speak with a mentor. Pray. Read a book.
I would be willing to bet that there are resources that can assist you with overcoming your fear IF you are willing to try.
I would also bet there are people on this forum that have experienced the same or similar problems and found a way to succeed.
Don't give up. It becomes a habit.
I would be willing to bet that there are resources that can assist you with overcoming your fear IF you are willing to try.
I would also bet there are people on this forum that have experienced the same or similar problems and found a way to succeed.
Don't give up. It becomes a habit.
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Sgt Ed Allen
I have always had a fear of heights. Or, as I like to say, a very, very deep respect for the power of gravity why in an elevated position, but I still did the confidence course at MCRD. The ladder to heaven and whatever they called the cable that you had to maneuver down from scared the living crud out of me. But I still did it and even learned to enjoy it. Rappelling from the tower really scared me, but I still did it and took great pride in only needing to bounce on the wall once on the way down.
Fear is good. Fear makes you think about what you are doing. Fear makes you do things with safety in mind. Fear helps you grow.
Fear is good. Fear makes you think about what you are doing. Fear makes you do things with safety in mind. Fear helps you grow.
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I spent nearly my entire career on jump status and have seen a lot of troops come and go. Nearly every one (to include myself) felt fear every time...and I am a "Master Blaster". Someone once said that courage wasn't the absence of fear, but the ability to do in spite of fear.
Now I could teach grandma to jump out of an airplane, but that wouldn't make her a paratrooper. "Paratrooper" is a state of mind, you see. It's that state of mind that allows you to go one more click when you're cold, exhausted, hungry, miserable and wet... and then another click after that. The state of mind that causes you to go further than your body thinks you can. The state of mind where absolutely NOTHING is too tough or too much to handle... and that stays with you the rest of your life. No such thing as an ex-paratrooper in my opinion. Ask (an airborne) vet who he was with, and 99 times out of 100 he won't say "I was in the Army"... he'll say "I was in the Deuce/Rangers/SF" etc. That's how life changing the experience is.
When I was at the boy's camp in W. Va there was a prominent saying that we saw over and over: "The greatest failure is the failure to try".
You're the one who will look into the mirror for (God willing) many years to come...who do you want staring back at you? Give it your best shot... at the very worst you'll know you tried.
Thus endeth the sermon.
Now I could teach grandma to jump out of an airplane, but that wouldn't make her a paratrooper. "Paratrooper" is a state of mind, you see. It's that state of mind that allows you to go one more click when you're cold, exhausted, hungry, miserable and wet... and then another click after that. The state of mind that causes you to go further than your body thinks you can. The state of mind where absolutely NOTHING is too tough or too much to handle... and that stays with you the rest of your life. No such thing as an ex-paratrooper in my opinion. Ask (an airborne) vet who he was with, and 99 times out of 100 he won't say "I was in the Army"... he'll say "I was in the Deuce/Rangers/SF" etc. That's how life changing the experience is.
When I was at the boy's camp in W. Va there was a prominent saying that we saw over and over: "The greatest failure is the failure to try".
You're the one who will look into the mirror for (God willing) many years to come...who do you want staring back at you? Give it your best shot... at the very worst you'll know you tried.
Thus endeth the sermon.
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Suck it up. Your unit paid good money to send you to school. The first jump is scary sure, but you know what to expect. Conquer whatever fear you may have, turn it into fun. In every aspect of your enlistment, you will have challenges, fears and doubts. My buddies told me it was their 2nd jump that was more scary bc you know what to expect. After more jumps you'll be craving it. Now, I didn't jump while I was in, No need for tankers to be airborne they say. I did it when I retired. I honestly wasn't scared, it was difficult with a person attached to you to squat, arch your back and jump out. So I just launched out the door and AWAY WE GO!! I loved it. Ain't nothing but a thing. Don't sweat the small sh*t. WHY? Because it's all small sh*t. Good luck, have fun and be the best you can be.
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Well, you will be ending your own career. I have commanded companies in the Army. I would recommend to discharge you with a general discharge. While others are willing to fight in harms way you believe it is too frightening to do what others have done hundreds of time. If you can't get over your fear of heights I don't believe you have want it takes to deploy into a warzone. The Army isn't for everyone. Just be prepared to payback any bonuses you have. I know some of the leadership in the 173rd. I am sure they will have a similar view to mine. You need to let them know asap when you get there but the command team will decide your fate.
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PFC (Join to see)
Thank you for being honest with me… your right on the point that I am not capable of doing much of the tough work in the army, which is probably why I went as a support MOS but I definitely can still serve my country
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PFC (Join to see) - I would try to notify your current Chain of Command ASAP. You might be able to get your orders changed. You should also reach out to your Branch manager. If you go to the 173rd it is going to bad. You can still serve in any other formation but since you went to airborne they may send you anyway. I would recommend to just work on getting over your fear. I hate heights. I have 45 jumps. I have been knocked out twice but I still jumped. After my time I have choose to go to non-airborne units. I would try to put your time in and move on.
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1SG Ernest Stull
PFC (Join to see) - You know buddy from reading your response's I think that you are more suited to work at BK. I am a 23.5 yr. veteran and you are either a troll or a slug. I hope I have not been to cruel in selecting my words to you. I pray that you will take our advice of Shit or get off the pot for you are wasting our time. I
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My first reaction to your question was: are you kidding? Are you a soldier or a snowflake? As an adult we accept responsibility for our own actions. You requested that the Army expend resources to train you as a paratrooper, the Army did so, and now you want to avoid fulfilling your commitment. I suggest that you comply with your orders and use this assignment as a means of overcoming your irrational fears. And unless the military has changed even more than what I imagine it has during my many years of military retirement, you will not be jumping so often as to constitute a real burden to your fears, or for very long.
When I was a young officer I volunteered repeatedly for airborne school, but being in a combat service support branch the Army would not send me for that training unless I was on orders to an airborne unit. When I received orders to join the 101st Airborne for my Vietnam tour, I thought that finally I would have the chance to get that training, but sadly that Division was Airmobile then, rather than Airborne and again the Army denied my request. Later I was able to satisfy my interest in parachuting by joining a civilian club, and I must say that my few jumps were among the most exciting things I have ever done.
When I was a young officer I volunteered repeatedly for airborne school, but being in a combat service support branch the Army would not send me for that training unless I was on orders to an airborne unit. When I received orders to join the 101st Airborne for my Vietnam tour, I thought that finally I would have the chance to get that training, but sadly that Division was Airmobile then, rather than Airborne and again the Army denied my request. Later I was able to satisfy my interest in parachuting by joining a civilian club, and I must say that my few jumps were among the most exciting things I have ever done.
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When I was an ROTC cadet, we all wanted to go to jump school. We "practiced" by jumping from the window of the cadet lounge (third floor) into Dean Patton's flower patch. This practice was not condoned by the cadre. And Dean Patton, who was not, as far as I know, related to the General but certainly had his temper, was not amused. I was scared every time I jumped. I'm still not sure whether I was more afraid of the landing, or of the Dean. But damn, that jump was exciting and fun. Only you can judge how much "fun" you can tolerate, but you are in a profession that will present you with situations far more dangerous than jumping from an airplane with a parachute. Being a soldier is inherently dangerous, even in training. I'm pretty sure you can overcome the fear. If not, well, you can always become an accountant. Best of luck, young warrior. If you stay the course, you'll have some great stories to tell.
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