Posted on Aug 5, 2015
I will complete MI BOLC by next summer. What intelligence community jobs are out there other than FBI and CIA?
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You can look at DIA and other agencies but honestly as a newly ordained 2lt MI Officer not many places are really going to look at you as having Intel experience. You'll basically have the same chances as any other person with a college degree. Even your security clearance needs to be reevaluated. In other words if you have a TS in the Army it doesn't automatically transfer to the FBI. They'll need to re-investigate
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A military clearance and a contractor or civilian clearance, or a law enforcement clearance are NOT the same thing.
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Yeah that's what I was trying to say. Your clearance from the military doesn't transfer to other agencies. It's a whole new investigation. So you can't even say "I've got a security clearance" and assume that will get you a job with the FBI.
Not trying to be a Debbie downer just realistic expectations of your qualifications after graduating.
Not trying to be a Debbie downer just realistic expectations of your qualifications after graduating.
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DIA, Contractor, GS, GG.... CENTCOM, SOCOM, EUCOM, PACOM, STRATCOM... The list is endless, Sir. Where do you want to work? What discipline? :)
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Take your pick, Sir. Like Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS stated, the world is your oyster! I have been in the IC for **cough**, a long time... Message me and we can chat more.
Take your pick, Sir. Like Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS stated, the world is your oyster! I have been in the IC for **cough**, a long time... Message me and we can chat more.
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I understand where you are coming from. I see from your profile that you are in the National Guard, so waiting to get more on-the-job experience isn't really practical advice for you, especially if you are looking for a new day job. But what everyone else is saying is true. Most agencies and contracting firms are looking for someone who has around three or more years of experience, with at least one deployment. So realistically your cohort are people who are applying for entry level positions that require very little training or experience. I'm not trying to dash your hopes, I just want to make sure you have a realistic expectation of the jobs that are a match for you.
With that said, one way that you may be able to make up for your lack of practical experience could be pursuing a degree in intelligence studies. This would make you stand out a little bit more than someone who has a clearance but no real world experience.
If you want to get an overview of the different Agencies that are a part of the National Intelligence Community you should take a look at the National Intelligence Familiarization Course. It's in the Foundry Catalog and you can find it on ATRRS under school code 144. Most units have Foundry Funding that goes unused every year and the travel and per diem wouldn't come out of your state's budget.
Also check out some of the job websites that cater to professionals with security clearances. Sometime they post jobs that require a clearance, but no other formalized training.
I hope that helps, reach out if you have any other questions.
With that said, one way that you may be able to make up for your lack of practical experience could be pursuing a degree in intelligence studies. This would make you stand out a little bit more than someone who has a clearance but no real world experience.
If you want to get an overview of the different Agencies that are a part of the National Intelligence Community you should take a look at the National Intelligence Familiarization Course. It's in the Foundry Catalog and you can find it on ATRRS under school code 144. Most units have Foundry Funding that goes unused every year and the travel and per diem wouldn't come out of your state's budget.
Also check out some of the job websites that cater to professionals with security clearances. Sometime they post jobs that require a clearance, but no other formalized training.
I hope that helps, reach out if you have any other questions.
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We had at least 3 2LTs get job with the FMV program at BAE and a couple others with DCTC in Reston. Straight out of MI BOLC.
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I applied and another LT applied during BOLC and another applied right after about a month from the end is a good time to apply
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I just separated from active duty this past year and switched to the reserves. I am also an Intel officer with 4 years experience on the active side and getting close to a year in the reserves. The best advice I can give you is to apply to the goverment contractors because they have a lot of entry level training programs that set you up for a career in the IC. I just recent got a job in the DC area as a contractor and it has been great so far. I'm doing something different than all-source Intel, but my company liked that I had the doctrinal background and understood IC policy. Completing BOLC will help give you that.
As far as security clearances go, they don't do a full re-investigation. They do what is called a "cross over." Mine took 3 weeks to cross over and I moved to DC a week later so from job offer date to first day of work was about a month.
Apply to as many jobs as you possibly can both on usajobs.gov and at contractors. Most states have an Intel or investigative agency that you can also apply for. I probably applied to 50 jobs and heard back from about 10 when I was actively looking for a job. Now that I have one, I keep getting interview offers. The contractor side seems to be the easiest way to land a job right now. This is my foot in the door job to the civilian Intel world and I will keep applying for government jobs until I get one.
If you have any questions about the process I went through, please let me know. I'm by no means an expert, but I have recent info if that helps.
As far as security clearances go, they don't do a full re-investigation. They do what is called a "cross over." Mine took 3 weeks to cross over and I moved to DC a week later so from job offer date to first day of work was about a month.
Apply to as many jobs as you possibly can both on usajobs.gov and at contractors. Most states have an Intel or investigative agency that you can also apply for. I probably applied to 50 jobs and heard back from about 10 when I was actively looking for a job. Now that I have one, I keep getting interview offers. The contractor side seems to be the easiest way to land a job right now. This is my foot in the door job to the civilian Intel world and I will keep applying for government jobs until I get one.
If you have any questions about the process I went through, please let me know. I'm by no means an expert, but I have recent info if that helps.
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Well, other than government jobs, you could look into contracting work for one of the agencies until you find one that's up your alley.
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There are some options, and you need to decide where you want to go from here. What do you want to do? Are you scheduled for training in an MI specialty? What kind of academic background do you have? Do you have an affinity for languages, mathematics, technology, or logic? Ask your branch manager for helpful advice. I served at NSA, and the experience was terrific.
Regards,
Hugh
Regards,
Hugh
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Sir, I am schedule to go MIBOLC in Feb 2016 - June 2016, I have an BA in Criminal Justice, I do plan on going back to school to get my master in informational security systems next year in the fall of 2016.
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As a new 2LT, you won't have access to jobs in "those" communities. You could go to INSCOM but it's encouraged to go to a BCT such as the 101st or 82nd. You won't be eligible for the "fun" stuff until you're a Captain with command.
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Besides the contracting companies, DIA, NGA, NSA, DISA, Treasury, State, Homeland Security to name a few. Most major departments have intel section and especially with Cyber.
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If I was a young officer again and considering an intelligence career, I would look very hard at Diplomatic Security / Diplomatic Security Service (US Dept of State). They have a very robust counterintelligence and Intelligence division. It is hard to get into, but if you can become an agent with any federal law enforcement agency or member of the intelligence community, you become eligible for a transfer after successful completion of probation (1 year?). You need to be as smart as a Foreign Service Officer, and as tough as a Special Forces officer.
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