Posted on Jan 26, 2018
If a soldier fails two PT tests, but the 2nd PT test exceeds 90 days, will that cancel out a chapter packet?
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I have a soldier who failed 2 record PT tests and was initiated a chapter packet but the 2nd test was taken after the 90 day per regulation it has to be no later then 90days. Does anyone know what happens to the packet if the 2nd PT test was taken after the 90days and can you please site the regulation/regulation canceling the chapter packet. Thank you for your help
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AR 350-1 G–9. (Physical readiness training) (m) Page 175
http://www.dami.army.pentagon.mil/g2Docs/Foundry/r350_1.pdf
(5) Soldiers requiring makeup testing will be scheduled in accordance with the unit standard operating procedures.
(6) Soldiers who fail a record APFT for the first time or fail to take a record APFT within the required period will be flagged in accordance with AR 600–8–2. In the event of a record test failure, commanders may allow Soldiers to retake the test as soon as the Soldier and the commander feel the Soldier is ready. Soldiers without a medical profile will be retested no later than 90 days following the initial APFT failure. Reserve component Soldiers not on active duty and without a medical profile will be tested no later than 180 days following the initial APFT failure.
(7) If a Soldier fails to meet the physical readiness standards in FM 7–22, the unit commander will remove the Soldier from parachute, diving, and flight crew status. This action will be taken to ensure the safety of that Soldier and other unit members.
You may also look in AR 600-8-2 (Suspension of Favorable Personnel Actions) (Flag). Hope this helps.
I know that reserves has up to 180 days for re-test per regulation.
http://www.dami.army.pentagon.mil/g2Docs/Foundry/r350_1.pdf
(5) Soldiers requiring makeup testing will be scheduled in accordance with the unit standard operating procedures.
(6) Soldiers who fail a record APFT for the first time or fail to take a record APFT within the required period will be flagged in accordance with AR 600–8–2. In the event of a record test failure, commanders may allow Soldiers to retake the test as soon as the Soldier and the commander feel the Soldier is ready. Soldiers without a medical profile will be retested no later than 90 days following the initial APFT failure. Reserve component Soldiers not on active duty and without a medical profile will be tested no later than 180 days following the initial APFT failure.
(7) If a Soldier fails to meet the physical readiness standards in FM 7–22, the unit commander will remove the Soldier from parachute, diving, and flight crew status. This action will be taken to ensure the safety of that Soldier and other unit members.
You may also look in AR 600-8-2 (Suspension of Favorable Personnel Actions) (Flag). Hope this helps.
I know that reserves has up to 180 days for re-test per regulation.
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Thank you so much that’s a start and that’s one of the regulations that I read but it doesn’t mention anything about what happens if the PT test is taken after 90 days or if the packet will be null in void since the test was taken after the 90days
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If soldier is served sep papers, first stop should be Trial Defense Services. One should still train and pass as soon as possible despite what CoC is doing or not doing.
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That would have been easy for this soldier if he hadn’t had the flu 101 fever with 21degree freezing weather. Unfortunately even after telling everyone he was sick as a dog had a bloody nose and blacked out when he finished he felt like he had no choice but to take that test because everyone was telling him to push hard and he better pass or this was it....so yeah there’s circumstances that we’re prohibiting him from being able to pass it.
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CPL (Join to see) - How has this soldier been doing on practice test that you have done over the last few months?
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CPL (Join to see) - Try and get him the chance to retake the PT test and the opportunity to do much better.
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Has there ever been an answer on this? I have the same question about what happens if the two apft's were more than 90 days apart. Does that nullify the chapter possibility? Obviously the soldier still needs to pass, but does this give another chance?
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I keep reading the regulation and all I see and read is “can not exceed 90 day” I’m going threw everything but maybe I’m just not looking in the right places if you can lead me or give me an idea of where I should look I would really appreciate it
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You can also refer to AR 635-200 (Active Duty Enlisted Administrative Separations)
http://www.ansbach.army.mil/documents/RetVetAR635-200EnlSep.pdf
http://www.ansbach.army.mil/documents/RetVetAR635-200EnlSep.pdf
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