Posted on Feb 8, 2018
Isabel Moritz
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I am a 2nd semester college freshman. If I join the national guard through ROTC by the end of this month, my contract is (apparently) only 6 years. I am considered non-deployable for 4 of those years because I am in college. Does this mean I’m considered deployable for only 2 years after college? I feel like I’m missing something here. Will I have to resign a new contract when I graduate?
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You are. When you complete ROTC and commission you essentially sign a new contract. Depending on the specifics if your situation you will owe the Army another 4-8 years. Once you complete BOLC you will be deployable.

Frankly, we are a nation at war. If you are trying to dodge deploying the Army is probably not for you.
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Isabel Moritz
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I am 100% okay with the obligations that come along with the opportunity. However, I would like to know for how long I will be committing.
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MAJ Operations Officer (S3)
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Think of it this way: your ROTC contract will trump your ARNG contract. As such, the specifics of your ROTC contract will dictate your overall service obligation. ROTC contracts and incentives change regularly. Your best bet is to engage with your ROTC staff and ask. However, generally speaking you're required to do a minimum of 4 years active duty or 6 years in the Reserve or Guard after accepting a commission. Scholarships and ADSOs can extend this time. If for whatever reason you're disenrolled you will still be required to fulfill your ARNG contract.

For what it's worth I think the SMP program is a great opportunity if your leadership is engaged. Hopefully this answers your question.
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LTC Tradoc Capability Manager Abct/Recon
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This is essentially correct, except that all contracts incur an eight year service obligation (more if you ADSO). Your contract will dictate how many of those years you will have to actively serve (on active duty or drilling in the ARNG/USAR). The rest of those eight years can be served in the IRR. Keep in mind that after your service obligation is up, you will remain in the IRR until your mandatory retirement date (MRD) unless you resign your commission.
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CPT Information Operations (Io) Planner
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I think the only caveat to this would be in the case of a major military emergency - as in the Army needed huge numbers of soldiers immediately.
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You’re only non deplorable is you are not MOS or Branch qualified. Being in ROTC does not mean you are serving, it means you are learning how to serve. If you complete Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individuak Training you are eligible to deploy.
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SPC David Willis
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The only time youll need to sign another contract is if you decide to stay in once the six years are up. Once you graduate they may deploy you, they may not. That is entirely up to the rotation your unit is in.
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Isabel Moritz
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I was told by someone that my contract would go away once I graduate and I would have to sign another one. Is that true for SMP in the ROTC?
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SPC David Willis
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Isabel Moritz - I don't believe so. I just enlisted though so I'm not sure if ROTC is different, but if you have a 6 year contract than your ass is theirs for six years haha.
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MAJ Operations Officer (S3)
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SPC Willis is mistaken. Please see my other post.
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SPC David Willis
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There ya go haha.
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If I join the National Guard through ROTC, am considered non-deployable while in college?
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I was told by my recruiter that if I join the national guard now while still in college, they cannot deploy me for 4 years of my 6 year contract because I am in college and enrolled in the ROTC classes. Why does this seem too good to be true? Either way, I am almost 100% sure that the military is for me.
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Isabel Moritz
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I just need to hear a few more facts about everything.
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As long as you are a contracted Cadet then you will be non-deployable. Once you commission, you will owe Uncle Sam X amount of years depending on if and how much money you took in scholarships. I joined the National Guard in 2008 and enrolled in College in 2010. I took ROTC classes starting my freshman year, but was still deployable at the needs of my unit due to not being a contracted Cadet. I contracted as an SMP Cadet my Sophomore year and at that point was considered non-deployable.
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LTC Program Manager
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Unless things have changed you would only be contracted with ROTC for 2 of those years. If you are in the guard and just taking an ROTC class you could still be deployed.
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SGT Recruiting and Retention NCO (ANG)
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If you graduate from BCT and AIT you are eligible to deploy. And do it, it’s awesome.
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CPT Brad Wilson
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If you have completed Basic and AIT you are deployable if you haven’t then you are not. I was in ROTC during Desert Storm and an SMP 2 Cadets at my school were activated and deployed with the MP company they were SMP’s in because both were MOS qualified. I wasn’t so if my unit had deployed I would not have gone with them
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I'm just curious, if you could elaborate..what major are you? Which svc do you want, or which svcs have you looked at? What year are you? What GPA if you can say? Are you a STEM major? Non-STEM? I'd just wondered, as knowing more, I've found wit such questions, often help a in suggesting ovations possibilities, that:s all I'm saying...interesting question, I'd be most eager to hear more, so far as possible, interests, hobbies, reading, sports, martial arts, what branch of a svc you'd want?mwoildmyou want flight at all? Clinical interests? I'd expect, though this would just nena guess, that for disaster relief, even if you'd be in school, you'd certainly nenused, hurricanes, etc, which obv do happen...have you also looked at AGR? Guard tech? Reserve tech? If you're not ROTC yet, look at USMC platoon leaders course (PLC), few tend to know about it...also, here are the state maritime colleges, if you're not ROTC yet, VMI, the Citadel, irmyoure already ROTC, that's obv different, certainly, I !merely suggest the others as possible other avenues, often, states wnr territories link such other programs to tuition remission...in NY Statez, where my wife and I are, there's also the NY Naval Militia (NYNM) which is Federally recognized, for mainly drilling USNR, USCGR, and USMCR, they fan compete for SUNY tuition, I'd read, I don't know if such program exist in other states, it's not a state defense forde (SDF) in the typical sense, I've gathered, I merely mention it ifmyou might care to glance at it at all...overseas deployment, there I don't have a clue, honest, domestic deployment for e.g., sandbagging in hurricanes, or search and rescue (SAR) stuff, I'd thuink if you're able to be used, you might well be, though that's a guess, honest, just a surmise in my part...as I'd said, interesting question, I'd be most eager as I'd !mentioned to hear more, I !merely thought to suggest other possibilities...also, I've known instances where an ROTC program in one svd can let one occasionally opt to commission in another svc...when my next younger brother was USMMA Kings Point, I commissioned him, many of the grads, though the program is legally NROTC, opted for Army, USAF, USCG, one woman even went into the NOAA Corps, so I've heard of such being allowed, you'd need to be near the top of your class, however, I have seen such things happen, though it's likely fqorlymrarez and you'd have to be pretty good to qualify to switch in that fashion?..I justnhabe QN international st in education and career questions, yours was a really good one, honest, please do elaborate if you can, I'd find quite interesting hearing more, WS I'd said, by all means, hope was of at least some use, many thanks....
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