Posted on Feb 8, 2018
SSgt Terry Jenkins
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I have a Vet in our program over $20k quotes to repair and lawyers say thousands to fight. He is young and trying hard in our program to better himself. I’ve never financed through VA but assume if the closing documents listed no damage and now some is showing up he should have some sort of assistance. Just want to point him in the right direction.
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SSgt Terry Jenkins
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Just found out that he found pictures 04-06 time frame from Google street shows the cracks on the outside, pictures from purchase 2 years ago not there, the previous owner did landscape project dug out and put a new driveway in, claimed renovations to the house and said no damages or issues on disclosure...the previous owner was a contractor and is now a realtor. ...You know my primary job in the air force was close air support...if any of you were in the Army and were pinned down and then saw that AF guy with the floppy black beret and radios and then those A10's suddenly arrived and rained down unholy hell on the bad guy this is who I am. It's about time to run a mission again, might be time to rally the troops and make this guy famous! The information you guys are giving me is helping a lot, he is already feeling encouraged.
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Maj Marty Hogan
Maj Marty Hogan
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Shit is about to get real- when you can prove it- and with these pics he has a great case, it changes the dynamic. The previous owner being a contractor turned RA- they know the tricks. Good luck.
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SSgt Terry Jenkins
SSgt Terry Jenkins
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Yeah he had two lawyers that said his case was great but since this guy was an individual and not a large contracting company they would need a large sum up front, he said I don't get it. I said because they smell blood and know he will just file bankruptcy. The better route is to take him out of business and use this massive tool of "public court". Think about that teacher that bad mouthed the military, only took minutes to become famous! You don't mess with a brother.
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COL David Turk
COL David Turk
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If the repairs are under the small claims limit (for MO), you can try that route. Be very specific that you are only suing for “x”, and not for any other defects found or to be found.
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CWO3 Us Marine
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VA loan mostly only benefits the bank, and partly the homeowner. No protection for anything like this. They do require an inspection before signing onto the loan, so I'm surprised this wasn't discovered during the process. Check loan papers and start making phone calls.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
Sgt Kelli Mays
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CWO3 (Join to see) It's not an inspection. It's an appraisal. they are very different. The VA loan is not issued or given by the VA...it is only guaranteed by the VA, but for only 40% of the entire loan amount. THE VA loan DOES however Greatly benefit the buyer/homeowner. The VA loan does NOT benefit the lender in anyway...VA loans are at a lower interest rate than other loans and therefore the lender makes less money. VA loans only let the borrower pay a certain percentage of the closing costs, therefore greatly benefiting the buyer/home owner, but not really the lender who ends up eating some of this cost. VA loans greatly BENEFIT the VET/buyer/home owner because there is NO MONEY DOWN. All other loan products require money down. VA loans do NOT require MIP or PMI...which is mortgage insurance premium which is ON TOP of your Home owners insurance that is required for all other types of loans be it FHA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae etc... these two factors are BIG...on a $200000 loan...for an FHA loan your payment would be .85% higher than your VA loan and even higher for any type of conventional loan unless you put down a whopping 20%, but who has that kind of cash. most people are stuck paying the MIP/PMI...at least on the VA loan, you don't have this added to your payment. In this case....there is not a whole lot he can do. LOAN papers will not help him...this is not LOAN or a DEED of TRUST issue. this is an issue with the seller and or sellers realtor. COL Mikel J. Burroughs SSgt Terry Jenkins
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CWO3 Us Marine
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I've bought and refinanced several homes over the years, both conventional and VA, and am aware of all that you refer to. The most recent one was VA and besides an appraisal we did an inspection. We got 15 yr at 2.75% so I'm pretty happy about it. That was partially because the lender was Navy Federal, but I was glad we did it. They took pictures and did a thorough inspection of the structure and all systems. It was well worth the approx. $300 we spent, because it provided a baseline snapshot of the property in the event of any unforeseen problems i.e. litigation. All that you have provided is good info for a novice though. I agree that there is not much VA can do for him, and that's why I stated "No protection for anything like this". For a novice, looking at the papers is a first step only. The main benefit for the lender is a partial guarantee of payment by VA.
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SSgt Terry Jenkins
SSgt Terry Jenkins
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This is so great imagine if this soldier had read this thread before buying his house, I may have to add a course with my IT program on how to buy a house. Sgt Kelli Mays do you want to teach it :-)
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Sgt Kelli Mays
Sgt Kelli Mays
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SSgt Terry Jenkins - sure, why not. lol Sorry, I tend to get a little long winded. I am that LO that actually takes the time to explain things in great detail to my clients.
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SFC Motor Transport Operator
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damn , that's pretty bad , I certainly hope that they do help you out somehow.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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I have my doubts, as the VA didn't finance it, they backed the loan should the veteran default on it.
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Sgt Kelli Mays
Sgt Kelli Mays
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CW3 Kevin Storm VA does not back the loan. The VA only guarantee's 40 % of the loan.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
CW3 Kevin Storm
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True, I could not at 6:00 AM recall the exact particulars on cup of coffee.
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CW5 Randall Hirsch
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You should ALWAYS get a home inspection before making an offer on a house. The 2 or 300 dollars for this service will save you money in the long run!
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CW5 Randall Hirsch
CW5 Randall Hirsch
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We always get a home inspection when purchasing a house. We have turned down houses because of the result of the inspection.
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PO3 Phyllis Maynard
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SSgt Terry Jenkins I have read about seven responses and I would have tried to put all of that info in my response. But, let me say this my carport has that same foundation problem and there is evidence of foundation shift in my full basement that is used as a second house. First of all my realtor advised I have the house inspected. Second, although the Realtors did not want buyer and seller meeting up we did. The seller wanted to point out things to me and explain why the repairs were made. The carport was regrouted and the basement was painted with waterproofing (Shur Wall) and a correct protective trench and berm we're constructed to turn the water coming down the neighborhood knoll directly rmto my house. Also I have cracks in the ceiling and an attic. I see you have wall cracks. Once corrective action takes place on the foundation shift it affects the inside because the inside has no reason to move. The for the inside the same contractor can make a recommendation. As for the VA getting involved. No, they don't they are a lending institution. WAIT let me interject this. As a 100% service connected veteran, my house was 100 percent financed by the military financial institutional I used. Under that program, they require that the buyer pay for an appraisal from a contractor or agency that they partner with. If that appraiser feels the purchase is a liability for the lender it will be reflected in the appraisal. But, in the old, old school days, like the 1970s and 1980s lending institutions did take a proactive part in these matters. But because so many people have campaigned to get insurance companies and lending institutions out of the equation so that they can get a good deal or not have to deal with strict requirements for the institutions, the new schoolers are on their own for covering all the bases. If you had your house inspected by a licensed inspector and he did not note the problem or the licensed appraiser did not note the problem, you may be able to get assistance through their professional insurance. Go back and check the pictures from the realtor to see if any of the shots showed those affected areas. If the professionals involved in your purchase did not take short cuts, you will have to get a building contractor to repair the areas. WHEN YOU DEAL WITH ANY CONTRACTOR ensure they have a general contractors license, worker's compensation, property liability insurance, and some people like for contractors to be bonded to protect them in cases of theft. Ask them to produce the documents. But as one poster said, your problem is fixable. Just do your due diligence when hiring people to do work on your property because that can become another catastrophe. My house was built in 1957. Back then they used quality wood and quality masonary. They did not erect them in 6 months, sometimes it was 6 years. But seriously houses back then were completed in about 2 years. COL Mikel J. Burroughs = COL Proactive :0)
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SPC Douglas Bolton
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SSgt Terry Jenkins Pretty overwhelming. I just hope everything can work out for this soldier.
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SGT Walter Lester
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Edited 8 y ago
Buying a house through a VA loan or private sale,unless it is sold with a warranty against damage after the sale. The VA will not cover the repairs. It should have been inspected by an inspector of the VA's chosen and the buyer should have done his own inspection of the home before the sale.
Your VA loan is not financed by the VA unless they cannot find a finance company or bank to take the loan. If they cannot find a company to take the loan, they will continue until they do.
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Sgt Vance Bonds
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I'm VA But was told mine only guarantees the loan to the financial institution should I default.
I bought insurance on the home to cover thijngs like this. Hope he did as well. It would be rolled into hos loan payments
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SSG Donald H "Don" Bates
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I doubt very much if VA wiil help this Vet. I had VA Loan years ago and had to have my own insurance, I am sure lawyers would cost more in the long run. If I knew where he lived I could possible recomment a repair company, have done foundation repair in my past.
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