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Hopefully the US military will not be drawn into what is happening in Europe with the various migrant crises SSG Norman Lihou
I recognize that department of state will be drawn in and USAID may as well. I hope that EUCOM is not drawn into this action.
I was stationed in Germany during the cold war and at times we were instructed to be careful where we went and how we dressed - that was primarily because of terrorism but the principle applies.
Hopefully all service members stationed in Europe will be kept apprised of the situation in terms of their region.
I recognize that department of state will be drawn in and USAID may as well. I hope that EUCOM is not drawn into this action.
I was stationed in Germany during the cold war and at times we were instructed to be careful where we went and how we dressed - that was primarily because of terrorism but the principle applies.
Hopefully all service members stationed in Europe will be kept apprised of the situation in terms of their region.
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Not to insult but NATO would mean our direct involvement (if I'm understanding your question correctly), maybe the more appropriate question would be how much involvement.....
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SSG Norman Lihou
I just wonder whether or not the US would view this as part of the NATO commitment. As you also point out SFC David McMahon, one wonders what NATO will commit to the refugee crisis. From some of the articles that i have seen so far, it seems that it may be a naval commitment to try and stop the human trafficking/smuggling being conducted by illicit networks. This would certainly start some questions about NATO/US being used in a criminal/law enforcement perspective.
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SFC David McMahon
SSG Norman Lihou - Valid point...unfortunately I think there won't be a NATO agreement and most countries will be left to fend for themselves.
Lest we forget that Syria has been in a Civil War just over two years.....
Hard to believe it's 2016 sometimes
Lest we forget that Syria has been in a Civil War just over two years.....
Hard to believe it's 2016 sometimes
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Capt Seid Waddell
SSG Norman Lihou, "... it may be a naval commitment to try and stop the human trafficking/smuggling being conducted by illicit networks"
What does this mean? Intercepting the boats and returning the refugees to the war zone, or intercepting the refugees and transporting them directly to the rapidly diminishing list of sanctuary countries?
What does this mean? Intercepting the boats and returning the refugees to the war zone, or intercepting the refugees and transporting them directly to the rapidly diminishing list of sanctuary countries?
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SSG Norman Lihou
That is the wicked problem that any military commitment faces when dealing with the refugee crisis. As I pointed out, Capt Seid Waddell, I would hope that any suggestions by the EU on ways to incorporate a NATO response would be discussed to determine the second and third order effects and consequences of such action. As we both understand, a politician's grasp of military capabilities does not necessarily translate into successful military application and operations.
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It'd be interesting if someone tried to invoke Article 5. I thought France might after the ISIS attacks in Paris, but so far no one has.
If the solution winds up being military-run Dislocated Civilian Camps, we'd be much better served setting them up as close to Syria as possible. Preferably in Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, or Cyprus.
If the solution winds up being military-run Dislocated Civilian Camps, we'd be much better served setting them up as close to Syria as possible. Preferably in Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, or Cyprus.
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SSG Norman Lihou
1SG Jerry Healy you bring up a good piint as it seems Turkey has already set up a camp inside the Syrian border. This may lead to a protected area that Turkey may ask to keep the civilians safe.
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