If Officers fail at being a LT, should they be promoted to CPT?
I've only seen very few officers being told that they failed at their job, but still see them pin on CPT bars later and be enroute to take a company after C/3. I've seen new NCOs have more authority over people then the officer that was in front of the formation. I know the machine keeps turning no matter what screw, nut, or bolt you put in it, but should we have a way to decomission a young officer quicker to junior enlisted ranks through trends and evaluations rather then continue to give more then half of them more as they go forward?
I've seen these officers get seperated from the force with minimum to pay back to the military, if any at all. I've seen West Point grads told to kick rocks after entering into the ranks, and left with a great education and no fullfilled obligation. What are your thoughts?
I look back at the thirty years I have in the Military, and I will share with you, I was not brilliant, I did not play well with others.
I did however, have a tenacity to push through obstacles, and take correction. I call it Leadership sand paper, if the LT will not quit, who are we to give up on them.
I have been a Warrant Officer and a 2LT CC and I will share with you all have their own rite of passage. It is about mentorship, and leadership, and if leadership is broken it is because we are not mentoring.
My opinion is that just because I have a bachelors degree does not mean I can now be placed in a leadership role by Army standards. I proved nothing by Army standards in an Army setting that indicated I was capable of leading. Pay off my student loans (thank you Army!) yes but start me at the bottom so I can learn everything and have an appreciation of those ranks that I am now leading. From my short time in the Military (only a three year enlistment) I could definitely tell the officers who had a Military background whether that was coming from a Military college or were enlisted first, those guys had an understanding/knowledge of the Army way. Those who didn't, not saying they were terrible people, but were not on the previously mentioned level. I should note that I'm not saying there are not a lot of officers who come directly from a public university to the Army world are not successful, respected leaders.
That being said, what kind of documentation is needed to prevent the promotion to 03? Who is the final approving authority? Is getting passed over once a career killer?
I have seen sub par officers get moved into staff positions. Even top notch officers move. It was my understanding that they needed to fill other positions. Spending time as the BN S4 can give you valuable insight when working as an XO, and vice versa. Understanding all these cogs prepares you to operate the whole machine.
Is there some administrative action, short of kicking the officer out, that can be applied to try to get the soldier to see the severity of their lack of performance? I don't suppose a bar to reenlist applies to officers, but is there an equivalent?
The first question is, is there a paper trail of failures, documentation that shows the failures ? To promote or not promote you would need to show documentation showing the pattern of good or bad behavior ?
Another question is when LT's have failures or mistakes, was there corrective action or was he/she thrown into the wind ?
A bad NCOER or OER in the hyper competitive arena of the military can hinder or stop the career of a soldier so you may not see a paper trail of mistakes unless it's a major one.
This in essence goes back to the NCO's, Captains, even the LTC to mentor and groom new LT's to be better soldiers. The bad LT's you see now, may be coal meant to be diamonds if developed properly.
Maybe I'm the "always optimist", but unless that LT is completely unresponsive to advise and corrective action, there is always hope for a soldier. This is where you as the SFC is tested.
IMO good platoon sergeants will want the best platoon leaders, but the exceptional SFC will want the challenge of having the "not so good one" because he/she accepts the challenge of grooming a coal into a diamond.
Such a challenge for the SFC also looks better on an NCOER, and as a CPT. I will see it, because you have displayed the ability to mentor, as well as give technical and practical expertise in your chosen field. It also strengthens the Army in general, because LT's who are thrown into the wind and then promoted become very resentful to NCO's who did not advise or help them when they needed it most and that can affect their decision making in the future when they go up in the ranks.
Not only did after the investigation get 'sealed' did he pick up another infantry platoon, when we returned from deployment he pinned captain. I feel this was a failure on multiple levels and an example of the good ole boy system that can occur in different units.
Compared to the 8's when I came in I see a breakdown of mentorship and leadership. I do not like it when the conversation turns into us and them, it does not solve anything. I was an E-5 and I got punched in the face in formation and I still had to listen to my NCO.

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