Posted on May 2, 2017
If there was one thing you could fix in the Army what would it be?
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Treat Soldiers with more respect and not piss on them just because you can and thats the way you were treated. Thats why we have good Soldiers wanting to get out of the military so early in their careers. Because they have been bullied.
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LTC (Join to see)
That's a very interesting response. I have always found that the best leaders are the ones that the Soldiers respect, because if they don't respect you they wont go the extra mile to make sure they, the unit and you are successful.
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SGT (Join to see)
This is something I’ve been saying for awhile. Respect is different than being a soft and cuddly leader. You can be stern and “hardcore” yet still be a leader who listens to his soldiers, doesn’t constantly degrade them, and shows respect. A leader who shows respect, will get respect back from his soldiers. I’ve had a couple platoon sergeants that I respected a lot, and though I admit that I enjoyed my sham shield for a bit, once I had leaders I felt actually gave a damn about me, I found myself wanting to actually work for them. I would go the extra mile like you said to make sure things were done right because I wanted to make sure they looked good to their leadership as well. In a respectful chain, you all have each others back.
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We need to stop with the pussifying of our soldiers. Today's BCT is shit. They have stress cards they can throw because the DS hurt their Itty bitty pussy feelings. Well, PVT Snowflake, if you didn't want to get yelled at you should have stayed the hell home. But you're in the army now, and Mommy isn't gonna come save you and put her tits in your mouth. Fugging PC BS...
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SGT (Join to see)
As has been pointed out on numerous occasions, stress cards are an urban legend. Though I think you may be trolling anyway.
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SSG (Join to see)
Just once would I like to the mythical stress card. Don't get me wrong, basic has wussified 10 fold since the early 90s.
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The BMI is such bullshit. I had a guy in my reserve battalion who was and engineer for UP Railroad and an amateur bodybuilder. When competition season is in his body fat was at best 7% and hung around 12% in the off season. At the time of his discharge from the Navy he was told his BMI was to high... Almost 30%, even though he had recently win an amateur contest and spend most of his off time getting ready for the next competition. So, my question is...How is someone who is very visibly physically fit get a failing grade on his BMI enough times to be not allowed to reenlist to serve our great Nation?
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SPC Tony Savarino
Because they are calculating BMI with little more than a fucking measuring tape. That is the single most inaccurate and outright LAZIEST ways to determine BMI. You can get a faster and more accurate reading with a handheld fat loss monitor (Omron HBF306C) for $40 at Walmart and the results are displayed in under a minute.
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SPC Erik Thompson
I lifted weights my whole time in the Army. I maxed PU'S, SU's and my two mile run. I am 5'11" and weighed 195. I had a 33" waist and my 1st Sgt gave me grief every single day for almost a year.
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CPL Cord Nipper
SPC Erik Thompson That's bullshit. Any 1SG who has a soldier in your position should make you an example to the company of what to work towards.
The BMI is the biggest POS in fitness/health.
I'm 44. 5'8 and 185. Not as fit as I used to be but definitely not obese as the BMI says I am.
The BMI is the biggest POS in fitness/health.
I'm 44. 5'8 and 185. Not as fit as I used to be but definitely not obese as the BMI says I am.
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SPC Erik Thompson
CPL Cord Nipper My first day in the company he said to me, "Your kinda big aren't you?" I merely referred him to my last PT test that I scored 300 on. He didn't care. Told me he didn't want "body builders" in his company.
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Wow ! have things changed since basic training in 1967. I can remember DI's up your ass 24/7 helping you get mentally and physically fit. At the end of basic you were a better person or a washout. Force marches 5 miles full pack, running partway with your M14 over your head. Then a full set of PT before you could get into chow line everyday.
I may have a false impression but it sounds like things have gotten soft.
I may have a false impression but it sounds like things have gotten soft.
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SSG (Join to see)
Funny thing is, exactly what you described sounds soft. Everyone will always say in the end they had it worse.
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CPL Cord Nipper
I've been out over 20 years.
Yesterday I was putting on a pair of BDU pants to work in my yard.
I thought about how many hours I spent shining boots and ironing uniforms and the attention to detail it instilled.
Made me wonder what troops today do to fill the time.
Yesterday I was putting on a pair of BDU pants to work in my yard.
I thought about how many hours I spent shining boots and ironing uniforms and the attention to detail it instilled.
Made me wonder what troops today do to fill the time.
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Get rid of that gawdawful current blue service uniform and make EVERYTHING worn on the uniform specific to and earned only by the individual, thus somewhat reducing the well noted gaudiness of the Army uniform.
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MSgt George Cater
I suppose you could wear your medals and such on your cammies for parades and such like some foreign armies, but I think most would agree there is some use and merit to at least a service uniform like Marine Greens for when cammies are just not appropriate. BTW, the current Marine forest greens are directly descended from our WW1 uniform with the standing collar turned down into lapels, replace the EGAs and adding the existing khaki shirt and tie. So one could say that the Corps complies with your suggestion. SGT Phil Smith
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Make it difficult to quit during training, bring back remedial platoons in basic, to provide incentives to those who didn’t grow up in a culture of finishing what you started. Some of the best soldiers I knew came out of those platoons after a rocky start. I have a nephew who enlisted a few years ago and was home practically before getting through 3-4 weeks of training. You don’t make good soldiers without some discipline to harden them.
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Active Duty CHIROPRACTORS!!! The military puts a toll on our bodies! Chiropractors can help prevent that & prevent the usage of pain meds, which just cover up the symptoms.
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I have two answers. One is a thing that needs to go away. The other is a system that needs a huge fix and overhaul.
PT belts need to go away. We all know it from the top to the bottom. Which bothers me even more about them. We all know that a PT belt isn't doing any good for safety during PT. Then we are wearing them in combat and other crazy places.
The system we need to have an overhaul on is the way we do assignments and sponsorship. I think assignments could be made better by creating some kind of a "job board". Something that shows open or soon to be open assignments. Where a Soldier could "apply" for the position. Let the leadership at the distant end look at a Soldiers record and decide who they want. An example of why I think this is needed is you have many Soldiers that would like to take on certain leadership roles and you have others that may what some staff time. But it seems like you also have some platoon sergeant who doesn't want to be there and some E7 in S3 dying to take over a platoon. Hand in hand with that would be sponsorship. It is definitely getting better in the 11 years I have been in the Army but I still think we could improve how it is handled. Some of the things a Soldier needs to do to in-process could be handled prior to arrival. i.e user account paperwork.
PT belts need to go away. We all know it from the top to the bottom. Which bothers me even more about them. We all know that a PT belt isn't doing any good for safety during PT. Then we are wearing them in combat and other crazy places.
The system we need to have an overhaul on is the way we do assignments and sponsorship. I think assignments could be made better by creating some kind of a "job board". Something that shows open or soon to be open assignments. Where a Soldier could "apply" for the position. Let the leadership at the distant end look at a Soldiers record and decide who they want. An example of why I think this is needed is you have many Soldiers that would like to take on certain leadership roles and you have others that may what some staff time. But it seems like you also have some platoon sergeant who doesn't want to be there and some E7 in S3 dying to take over a platoon. Hand in hand with that would be sponsorship. It is definitely getting better in the 11 years I have been in the Army but I still think we could improve how it is handled. Some of the things a Soldier needs to do to in-process could be handled prior to arrival. i.e user account paperwork.
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LTC (Join to see)
I appreciate the candid response, and I believe that you are right it is getting better but it will take time with everything. One bit of info for you is that there is currently a system in place for the unit on the distant end to view prospective candidates for a job, but it is only currently done for Joint Assignments at the MAJs level and above. I believe it could be easily implemented at a much lower level.
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Get rid of the current promotion system. I've seen too many kids getting E-5 when they aren't ready. The Army's philosophy that everyone is a leader is bullshit.
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Communication! Its always been horrible and needs to flow. EVEN if you don't like whats being said!
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
Think of it through the lens of "process". In the Army, the process owns you- you have to execute the process even if it's terrible and wastes lots of time and doesn't bring the results you could get doing it differently. In great civilian companies, the process doesn't own the employees- they own the process. In the Army, people are so focused on process that they stop looking at outcomes- they only look to make sure they are doing the process right. That is a hallmark of an organization that has big problems.
Here is an interesting piece on this: https://www.recode.net/2017/4/12/15274220/jeff-bezos-amazon-shareholders-letter-day-2-disagree-and-commit
Here is an interesting piece on this: https://www.recode.net/2017/4/12/15274220/jeff-bezos-amazon-shareholders-letter-day-2-disagree-and-commit

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It’s Day 1 forever because Day 2 is death.
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CSM Eric Biggs
Sir, I disagree with your sentiment. While I agree the Army wastes a ton of time, I disagree about the process.
You do not have to execute the process if there is a better way. That being said if the Commander says do it this way after you provide your reasoning why something should be done a different way, well then you do it the Commander's way. However if there is a better way, and/or a "Lessons learned" showing why a particular way is not good, you have the responsibility to bring that to the Commander's attention. If you fail to provide the Commander with all possible options and your reasoning, you have just failed your leadership.
The problem in the Army right now is we have to many junior leaders who don't have the balls to stand up to leadership whit bad ideas. We as leaders have to show our leaders all the better options and explain why there way might be a bad idea and present them with a better way and the reasons. But at the end of the day it is still the Commander's call. Don't get stuck on the process though, think outside of the box. You can still own the process. In other words for my fellow Grunts, if the process is the hole and the way of conducting the job is the peg; take the round peg, shave it down until it fits in the square hole if that is a better option than the broken and slow round peg in round hole.
You do not have to execute the process if there is a better way. That being said if the Commander says do it this way after you provide your reasoning why something should be done a different way, well then you do it the Commander's way. However if there is a better way, and/or a "Lessons learned" showing why a particular way is not good, you have the responsibility to bring that to the Commander's attention. If you fail to provide the Commander with all possible options and your reasoning, you have just failed your leadership.
The problem in the Army right now is we have to many junior leaders who don't have the balls to stand up to leadership whit bad ideas. We as leaders have to show our leaders all the better options and explain why there way might be a bad idea and present them with a better way and the reasons. But at the end of the day it is still the Commander's call. Don't get stuck on the process though, think outside of the box. You can still own the process. In other words for my fellow Grunts, if the process is the hole and the way of conducting the job is the peg; take the round peg, shave it down until it fits in the square hole if that is a better option than the broken and slow round peg in round hole.
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SFC Melvin Rogers
The whole point of Commander's Intent and clearly defined end-state is so that the "process" becomes immaterial and flexibility is allowed. As long as the end-state is exactly as desired and the Commander's intent is met any route that gets you there, as long as it's moral, ethical, and legal, is acceptable
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CW4 Craig Urban
Fire trump. For not taking care of vets. Tiger woods is in bangkok on holiday. Drug addict
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Just one huh?
Hmm...okay, I'll go with:
Get rid of PRT.
"But PRT has experts saying its better and..." blaa, bla bla. The hardest PRT session I ever had--conducted by Master Fitness Trainers too!--wasn't half as vigorous as the weakest PT session I ever experienced. What's next, Hot Yoga?! Yeah, maybe(!) as they claim, it reduces injuries, but so does not getting off the couch! Doesn't mean it makes soldiers any healthier.
Hmm...okay, I'll go with:
Get rid of PRT.
"But PRT has experts saying its better and..." blaa, bla bla. The hardest PRT session I ever had--conducted by Master Fitness Trainers too!--wasn't half as vigorous as the weakest PT session I ever experienced. What's next, Hot Yoga?! Yeah, maybe(!) as they claim, it reduces injuries, but so does not getting off the couch! Doesn't mean it makes soldiers any healthier.
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SGT Dave Tracy
They began rolling it out a few years ago. I was stationed at Ft. Bliss, and let me tell ya, when they introduced it, you weren't going to find anyone within combat arms doing it except for those who were broken (what does that tall ya about the "intensity" of PRT?).
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Go back to wall to wall counsouling. Get rid of worrying about hurting people's feelings. Get rid of political correctness
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The promotion system is broke. Too many good Soldiers get passed over because they don’t have “enough points” irregardless of the fact they are more of an SME in their MOS, their section than the senior ranking. Or they do actually make board but can’t pin because overstrength for the next grade.
Second is the rating system. In 14 years TIS, 11 years TIG I’ve only had two, yes only two raters actually stay on point with quarterly counseling/ NCOER support form. Can’t count how many times I’ve had raters tell me to write up my own NCOER, send it to them for review and signature. Then I’m looked at like I committed the unpardonable sign when I inform them I have enough integrity to not write my own NCOER. They’re my rater, write it. The rater needs to also be in the rated Soldiers section as well. How’s a 42A going to rate a 91B from another section?
Second is the rating system. In 14 years TIS, 11 years TIG I’ve only had two, yes only two raters actually stay on point with quarterly counseling/ NCOER support form. Can’t count how many times I’ve had raters tell me to write up my own NCOER, send it to them for review and signature. Then I’m looked at like I committed the unpardonable sign when I inform them I have enough integrity to not write my own NCOER. They’re my rater, write it. The rater needs to also be in the rated Soldiers section as well. How’s a 42A going to rate a 91B from another section?
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I think the biggest problem is actually with NCOER and OER. The vast majority of the time you never get those quarterly counselings that are required, the CSM always red pens the shit out of it, little you can do if you have a vindictive asshole write it. if you need a change of rater less than 6 months after your annual you're fucked because you won't have enough bullets to get a good rating. When I went to Korea I had a change of rater NCOER 4 months after my annual. I got a 1:1 and among the best on the annual and a 2:2 and fully capable on the change of rater.
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We need nametapes and rank on PT uniforms. We spend enough time in them and it's ridiculous the amount of times I heard someone say "Don't you know who just walked by? That was the Division Commander"! Name and rank is on everything else, why not during PT?
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MAJ (Join to see)
SGT (Join to see) It's funny that you say that about being saluted. When I joined the Guard people who didn't know me would call me sir even if I was in PT's. I do think it has something to do with how Marines walk. Tall, upright, and with just a little bit of scorn on their face. Plus, I keep my hair cut closer to the Marines regulations than the Army's. The Army's is a tad lax in my opinion.
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CW4 (Join to see)
When I enlisted, the standard was PT is for PT. If you recognize a leader, render the proper greeting. If we are wearing rank and name tapes while conducting PT, PT wouldn't get done.
We conduct physical training to ensure Soldiers are fit and ready for combat. We cannot do that effectively with the need to stop and render the greeting of the day and a salute a very few minutes.
We conduct physical training to ensure Soldiers are fit and ready for combat. We cannot do that effectively with the need to stop and render the greeting of the day and a salute a very few minutes.
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SGT John Berry
Years ago while in the National Guard while attending PLDC we had a soldier struck by a car. I am a paramedic/ firefighter. I started rendering first aid. Soldier had an obvious femur fracture. I fell into civilian mode and started directing treatment. Some guy shows up also in PT uniform and asks " what the hell is going on? ". My response is " Who the F$_k are you? ". If he had a bird on his PT I am pretty sure I would have thrown a " Sir " in there somewhere.
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MAJ (Join to see)
CW4 (Join to see) - I disagree. When we go to the field the focus is on training also. Same as on the rifle range. Same as in the gas chamber. The focus is always on training. In the field we have a no salute policy. There's no reason why we can't have that during PT as well.
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NCO's need the same educational opportunities as officers. It's a double standard. As an officer once you reach a certain rank your sent to all kinds of schools. Why should excellent outstanding other ranks not be allows to attend the War College as an example.
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if we dont tix the nonsense in the Army, then you will find all of your Volunteers looking for ways out. the ridiculous mandatory training, the nonstop blanket punishments, the friggin promotion system that has everyone confused as to when a NCO can move up or out.
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