Posted on May 4, 2014
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I think being non deployable is the worst thing in the Army. Nothing worst than watching your Soldiers board the plane to deploy and you are in the rear.
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
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SSG Squad Leader
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I once had a Plt Sgt who told me to never pass up a good opportunity to shut the fuck up and really think about how you want to express your thoughts...

Was good advice
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Glad I'm not you. To bad he told you to shut the fuck up though. That's not cool
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You are obviously uneducated on the bigger picture of how the Army operates. It takes all kinds of Soldiers behind the scenes that keep the warfighter functioning on and off the battlefield. I have deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan and now work at a Staff position in Corps facilitating the war fighters who are heading down range. Because I am unable to deploy again because of medical reasons this makes me a sub par soldier in your eyes. It is idiots like you that give the Army a bad name. How can you take care of soldiers with a view point like that? I wonder how someone like you ever became an NCO in the first place.
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Im far from uneducated on the bigger picture of the Army. It does not take 50,000 Soldiers behind the scenes battle. No does not make you a sub par Soldier but i will tell you this if Im down range and you in the rear with the gear, there should be a block on the NCOer stating that I am continuing to make sacrifices and you are going home at night with your family.
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IMO, if you can't deploy, you should be separated. Get out, get the treatment you need, etc. RCP is a waste of $. Why let a Soldier stay in that's non dep? Then not promote them? They'll be allowed to stay in, prolonging the inevitable. This isn't to say non deployable Soldiers aren't good leaders, etc. Our job is to be deployable. If you cant, then you need to get out, get the help you need, and get a job that doesn't require you to deploy. Respectfully.
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PO1 Rodney Bracey
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I have served with plenty of non deployable personnel. Their professionalism is a non issue. In fact, most non deployables often work harder because they know they may take one on the chin during fitrep/eval periods for not deploying.
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SP5 Roberta Sanchez
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No promotions if non-deployable? It depends on why they are non-deployable. If a person has an injury, it is a lot different than someone who is a Beetle Baily. It is not fair to penalize a combat veteran or someone who carries an injury in the performance of their duties because they can no longer deploy. There is no place in combat for an injured person, but it sure cause a lot of people to be injured.
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50,000 non deployable SM in the army. what are we going to do about it?
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SSG Bruce Zeit
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I was medically discharged because I was non deployable. I can see both sides of this coin, I was a career NCO and wanted to finish my time in uniform. Yes, I was deemed medically non deployable but why get rid of a soldier who wanted to serve and was capable of training and helping junior soldiers ?
I spent the bulk of my career in the Engineer Regiments and was given the option to recalls or get out I declassed and was still put out. I worked hard to train my soldiers and foster the values we all should hold close, instead of being allowed to stay and continue I was boarded and sent packing. Some of my junior soldiers were left with poor leadership filling my slot. I knew I wouldn't deploy but wanted my troops to know they were trained and prepared to my fullest ability.
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That's too black and white for be a policy. Concept makes a little sense but definitely not practical. I am currently non deployable for the first time in 17 years and 5 deployments for the next 60 days for my hearing H3 profile, I definitely don't think I should be chaptered.
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SSG there will be exceptions to the rule. Combat related injuries, years in service. I believe a NCO with 17+ years should be able to retire if deemed that the injury will not improve. Something like hearing will never comeback (i dont think) If i was assisting in making this policy that would be in there
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I got what your saying, but it shouldn't be a blanket "non depoyable good bye...except for these guys". I understand your gonna run into those Soldiers milking it, if anything, QMP should pay attention to this when reviewing files.
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SPC Bryan Guzman-Piedra
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While I don't think Non-deployable soldiers should necessarily be in the army, what you are suggesting is punishing people for what amounts to being injured. That's not cool, it makes me wonder how you would treat an injured soldier in your formation.
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SMA seems to agree. Actually what I said is better. At least i say keep them in and they are non promotable. SMA just gonna send them home. Doesnt matter to me as long as we do one or the other. 50,000 NON DEPLOYABLE SOLDIERS!!!!! Enough said. Pack em up and ship them home.
Also you need read everything because i already stated that combat injuries would be an exception to the rule.
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SPC Bryan Guzman-Piedra
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It is not that I completely disagree with you SFC. It's your presentation. You said so much and got across so little.

I certainly believe that soldiers who are obviously faking injuries(a few of which I've had the misfortune of dealing with), fat soldiers that refuse to change, and others who simply don't meet any standard should be sent to the couch. I'm all about it.

But you said NON DEPLOYABLE. Which encompasses quite a bit. Including soldiers who were injured during training(PT, field problems, and other events). Maybe we should apply some critical thinking to this instead of saying pretty much anything you suggested. I also don't think SMA Daly's opinion on the matter is necessarily something you should rest your position on.
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50,000 non deployable Soldiers in the Army today. Its time to clean house. Like it or not. Will there be exceptions to the rule? Yes. But there is no way to justify 50,000 Soldiers in the rear with the gear.
SMA said the same thing, NON DEPLOYABLE and everyone is giving him kudos.
I propose that non deployable Soldiers are flagged from promotion (depending on injury , how and when the injury happened). On the NCOer there should be a block that says if a NCO is deployable or not with a section to explain why.
I also think these 50,000 Soldiers, once cut down will help our slow dragging promotion system for our junior and senior NCOs.
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SP5 Roberta Sanchez
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Non-deployable soldiers are still useful to the mission as long as their attitude and brain is right. They can train, mentor and boost morale. Separate a combat veteran against their will and you will have a bitter veteran. Do we really need bitter veterans? This does not apply to the dead weight. They should have gone at the first indication of bad attitude.
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SFC Bde Mobility Nco
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Nothing gets people fired up in the Army more than PT and profiles.
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MSG Alfred Aguilar
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It would appear SFC, that you have opened a can of worms...
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