Posted on May 4, 2014
If you are non deployable, you shouldn't be able to get promoted. What do you think?
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I think being non deployable is the worst thing in the Army. Nothing worst than watching your Soldiers board the plane to deploy and you are in the rear.
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
Edited 11 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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If Soldiers at "non-deployable" because if injuries physical or mental then they should be allowed to get promoted if they meet the guidelines. Soldiers who dodge deploying but are capable should be sent to fort couch.
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My opinion is that I guess it would depend on the the reason he or she is not deployable. Is it a weight issue, or were they injured? A blanket yes or no doesn't really work.
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SFC (Join to see)
Sir,
How can you train and not fight? How can you look at your Soldiers and tell them you are not going with them, when its no longer training and its real.
Its time to find a new profession. This is about war. We train for war, that is the main purpose of the Army and if you can't do that its time to roll out.
How can you train and not fight? How can you look at your Soldiers and tell them you are not going with them, when its no longer training and its real.
Its time to find a new profession. This is about war. We train for war, that is the main purpose of the Army and if you can't do that its time to roll out.
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MAJ (Join to see)
I agree, however, I am saying there are a multitude of reasons someone might not be currently deployable. Saying "all or nothing" doesn't necessarily fit the situation.
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SFC (Join to see)
I bet if the Army flagged people if they were non deployable you have people put forth the same effort to become deployable, just like they do become non deployable.
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I believe that would depend on whether or not the soldier was on a permanant undeployable status or just temporary like I was after my last knee surgery.
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SFC (Join to see)
Temporary is cool because you will come off but permanent its time for you to find a new career path
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MSG (Join to see)
You must be upset at some experiences you've had. All MOS's have a PULHES requirement. You can have a P2 and still be qualified in your MOS. All P3s have to go through a MEB to determine they are still qualified to perform their duties. Some Soldiers have sacrificed their bodies at performing their duties. My opinion, they should be placed in a position to continue to serve, even if they can't deploy, if they choose to do so.
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SFC (Join to see)
Nope im not upset. I accept the Army for what it is and i accept the people in the army for who they are. Im just stating what i think, my opinion. You either agree or disagree. Its not that deep.
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You were right SFC. Not only can they not get promoted now but they can't even stay in.
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Couldn't agree more. This especially bad in the National Guard where you can make general and be non-deployable. A Californian was a LTC on 9/11, today here's a two star. Non deployable. Embarrassing. Elsewhere, the first four star Army Chief, National Guard Bureau was BG on 9/11. Never deployed anywhere on his long career. Embarrassing. And comparisons to Eisenhower are ridiculous, he's no Eisenhower.
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I'm not sure what your getting at here SFC... Seems to me you are publicly berating a group of your fellow soldiers which is not something I would expect from any rank above E-2... I have known people injured in combat who could not deploy, Are you telling me they shouldn't be promoted because they gave 110% and paid a price for it? I get it every branch has their shit birds but 99% of Marines I knew who weren't deploy-able had a valid reason. My advice to you would be, take a step back get to know your soldiers and their reason for the status and mentor, rehabilitate and train them to the best of your ability to get them back in the fight rather than bashing them here. But what do I know I'm just a jarhead.
Best Regards,
-Cpl D.
Best Regards,
-Cpl D.
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First off I have never seen -10 likes before. Secondly I would have to say that a non deployable NCO should be separated from the line. Before everyone unlikes this let me finish. This non deployable NCO may be the top NCO in the brigade. He/she may be nondeployable due to losing legs in a valorous act. The reason I say separated is because when you train up for a deployment you train as an individual, then team, squad and platoon. You learn the mannerisms, leadership style, and build confidence with you team. These things make a squad go from mediocre to lethal. That nondeployable NCO should be utilized for their skills. You don't make it to SFC with zero skills to offer. Let that person advice, assist and mentor. Do not let that person have a permanent duty with in an Infantry/ combat arms unit and then have to replace or retrain someone once it's deployment time.
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When there are situations (especially Medical) beyond ones control then how is it fair if they have met all of their schooling requirements, passed their most recent APFT/PT Test and met all other requirements prior to would it be fair that they not get promoted just because they are non-deployable??
If someone is milking the cow/Sick Call Ranger as you seem to be suggesting then I'd readily agree with you, but if it is something that they hadn't planned or just happened then they should still warrant promotion even if they are non-deployable.
If someone is milking the cow/Sick Call Ranger as you seem to be suggesting then I'd readily agree with you, but if it is something that they hadn't planned or just happened then they should still warrant promotion even if they are non-deployable.
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SFC (Join to see)
I understand your comments and understand your frustration. I think much depends upon the MOS and reason why the soldier is non-deployable? With that said, do not disagree with your comments about who and where to make cuts...which is easy for me to say from the Retired Reserve.
I understand your comments and understand your frustration. I think much depends upon the MOS and reason why the soldier is non-deployable? With that said, do not disagree with your comments about who and where to make cuts...which is easy for me to say from the Retired Reserve.
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I see where you are coming from on this, but I'm not sure it is being communicated in the correct tone. I understand what you mean, "If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?", but it feels like you are ranting here, like you have a personal problem going on in your unit or your experience with another unit in your time in service.
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SFC (Join to see)
Maybe I should have articulated it better. I wasn't ranting but I can see how people would have taken it that way
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