Posted on May 4, 2014
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I think being non deployable is the worst thing in the Army. Nothing worst than watching your Soldiers board the plane to deploy and you are in the rear.
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
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MAJ Ron Peery
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Soldiers who are awarded the MoH are non-deployable by law. Should we get rid of them? Soldiers who are the sole surviving child in a family are non-deployable. Should we get rid of them?
Soldiers who have been badly wounded may be non-deployable after recovery. Should we get rid of them? There are a ton of valid reasons a soldier may be non-deployable. They can still serve stateside supporting in training, administration, or logistics. Soldiers who actively avoid deploying may be good candidates for separation, but not people who have a valid disability. Sure glad SFC Demond Thomas doesn't get to make that call. Bet if he was non-deployable for any reason, he'd fight to be allowed to continue to serve.
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SP5 Ward Posey
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Excuse me for the question, but I am an elderly veteran of Viet Nam who tries to stay up on what the modern Army does and how it does it. What are the reasons for being nondeployable? Are they medical, because of a specific MOS, conscientious objector, or what? Thanks for your info.
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Cpl Rc Layne
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As with everything else in life, nothing is 100 percent.
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Maj Ken Brown
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A few years ago, the USMC through which world-wide deployability was universal for all Marines. Failure to be deployable was grounds for general discharge.

What happened to that?
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PO3 David Davis
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Not sure if the big picture is being seen. Some can make themselves non-deployable just to get out. That is why we sign contracts. At any given time amyone can be in that position.
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SPC Tommy Faircloth
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When I was in my unit did that. It took a while but they did make an attempt
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SP5 Hank Vandenburgh PhD
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Some MOSs will be less deployable.
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SSG Robert Albright
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Depends on the reason for being listed as non-deployable. I was listed as non-deployable after havng two ruptured discs replaced with synthetics; managed to BS my way through the next SRP and deploy again anyway; so I dont have a lot of sympathy for those labelled as "non-deployable". Hpwever, that being said, to restrict all non-deployables from promotion would screwour bretheren that are forced to medically retire due to injuries sustained in a deployment. Many people don't realize this, but if you are promotable during the medical retirement process you are retired at the higher rank.
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SSG Jason Penn
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I wholeheartedly disagree... It totally depends on the situation. For example, a quality soldier is the victim of a car accident, where he wasn't driving, and suffers a broken leg. He is placed as non-deploy-able while wearing a cast on his leg. Holding up his promotion for a temporary set back that is not his fault is just plain wrong.
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SPC(P) Carlos Santini
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I would disagree because there is usually a really good reason for a troop to not be deployed. I went to Iraq in 2003-04 and after coming home I was suffering from all kinds of shit so the doctors put me on all kinds of medications. Well come to hold that was the end of me deploying to any combat zone after that but I was a pretty good soldier help training new soldiers and I just offered advise and helped where I could. I am not saying I should be Command Sargent Major of Army but I feel like I was effective in my job duties here in the states.
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MSgt Sandra McKinney Dent
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There are many reasons; unless you are that individual's rater and/or immediate supervisor, you do not have all the information to make a decision. In other words fellow E-7, "It is NOT your concern."

What do I think? Is it one of MY Airmen? Does that Airman pull his or her weight? Is he or she an asset to our ability to fly, fight and win? Is this service or duty related? Is it a permanent condition? There are TOO many questions to answer first before I can recommend a single, simple yes or no answer.
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SFC Douglas Duckett
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Just what I needed, another mindless senior NCO who feels that if you cannot make a 300 on your APFT, you should be flogged, have your dog tags bent, and your meal card stamped “no dessert”. I needed this senior NCO to remind me of how sad I felt and the tears welling up when I watched my unit go forward without me. I needed this senior NCO to have me relive those feelings of uselessness and depression. I needed this SENIOR NCO to show lack of understanding and compassion for an Infantryman who deployed to Grenada and Iraq, but just could not go any further. I needed this SENIOR NON-COMMISIONED OFFICER to remind me of how my Army has changed. Thank you SFC (Join to see), and may God never make you non-deployable.
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SFC Bde Mobility Nco
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No worries battle. I'm 20 years in and still deployable. I'll go since you can't.
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Why is everyone so against non-deployable servicemembers? I never understood that. Did anyone ever think that there is a reason, whether it's good or bad, why the member is nondeployable? Also, if they are still in, probably because the military believes that they are still of some use? It just kills me on the level of ridiculousness on many people's take on this subject. Also, SFC (Join to see), you seriously believe that just because someone is non-deployable, they don't deserve a promotion? Seriously? How can you possibly justify this?
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Well battle at least in recommending they stay in. SMA is about to send them packing and he starting from the top.
I have nothing against non deployable Soldiers personally but i feel that it should be held against them when it comes to promotions.
Our main job is to fight and win wars. If you can not deploy, you can not go to the fight.
According to the SMA there are 50k non deployable soldiers in the ranks and All of them are not there to assist us. Some are just holding down slots that someone else could have while they are just cruising to retirement. It's time to send them to the house and I'm all for the SMA assessment of the situation. It's the number 1 problem in the Army and action needs to be taken.
Stay non deployable and not get promoted, get out, or become deployable it's that simple.
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MSG Robert Greco
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Two of my brother's were home when I deployed. We three are all retired now.

My brother's got us everything we needed, when we needed it! They got me in country and they got me out!

Yea, they were state side! But, they did a thankless job! They did a job of getting us there & back! They did there job outstanding with no reward!

My brother's watched my six!! If something happened at home (and it did) my brother's took care of it!

So they didn't deploy! Big F-en deal!! They protected me & many other's that did by protecting us from assault on the home front!
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PO1 Patrick Radcliffe
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Non deployable depends if it is temporary no big deal but if this is a career on non deploys then this service member needs to seperated.
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MSgt Callen Cavinder
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Having retired from the Air Force I could not agree more, far too often individual seem to never deploy and other seem to always deploy. If leadership is the driving force or not if your not deploying why should they have the advantage to study over people that deploy all the time. Leadership makes it clear who they want to promote at least in the Air Force by pampering individuals and not sending them on deployments.
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CW4 UH-60 Pilot
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Agreed. We are paid to defend the nation. If you can not, you are not doing your job.
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1LT Dennis Presley
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Gee, if only there was a system in place that would allow for the most qualified person to be promoted. Leadership skills, communication skills and deployable status. Oh wait a board might work and peer reviews.
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SSgt Gary Guinn
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I will stay out of this one. We didn't have multiple deployments over 14 years when I was in. So I back out. Tough question.
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SSG Donald Blackwell
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I whole heartedly disagree. In this age of military service, there are many servicemen and women who have given many years of faithful and dedicated service to become "deemed" non-deployable through their military service. After 15 and a half years of service, I had a botched surgery which led me no longer fit to perform as a Cavalry Scout. I was given a P3 profile, reclassified, and told that I would "NEVER" be promoted again. My service to country was not over and I refused for it to be. I continued my service in a non-deployable status and contributed a great deal to every combat service support soldier I encountered. Most service members can provide years of experience and knowledge in other areas when transitioning or moving to an academic position. There is a huge investment made into every military person, don't "get rid of" a great asset because they become non-deployable.
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