Posted on Jun 17, 2014
If you were the President of the United States how would you deal with ISIS?
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/08/opinions/bergen-isis-boko-haram/index.html
ISIS has taken over media in a way unprecedented by terrorist groups. Now other terrorist groups are claiming support for ISIS. Should Congress declare war on ISIS? Can you even declare a state of war against an ideology? If you were President how would you stop the spread of ISIS?
ISIS has taken over media in a way unprecedented by terrorist groups. Now other terrorist groups are claiming support for ISIS. Should Congress declare war on ISIS? Can you even declare a state of war against an ideology? If you were President how would you stop the spread of ISIS?
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No because to formally declare war on them legally necessarily requires that we recognize them as a state power, when they are not.
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Since they proclaim themselves to be a state, and they are taking over territory in other states (Syria, Iraq), absolutely yes. It is their intentions to have their own state. They have formally declared war on us, and many other countries, yes their should be war declared, and anyone caught offering support to them should be treated as a traitor.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/08/opinions/bergen-isis-boko-haram/index.html
The most recent ISIS article about Boko Haram pledging itself to ISIS.
I think the news companies are just stirring up trouble. ISIS hasn't even accepted Boko Haram's pledge of loyalty yet. Boko Haram just wanted to get the focus off of their loses to the Nigerian Forces. Their ideals are not the same as ISIS and since ISIS is pretty focused on accepting only their beliefs and rejecting others I do not think this is as big a deal as everyone makes of it.
The most recent ISIS article about Boko Haram pledging itself to ISIS.
I think the news companies are just stirring up trouble. ISIS hasn't even accepted Boko Haram's pledge of loyalty yet. Boko Haram just wanted to get the focus off of their loses to the Nigerian Forces. Their ideals are not the same as ISIS and since ISIS is pretty focused on accepting only their beliefs and rejecting others I do not think this is as big a deal as everyone makes of it.
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ISIS has seeded itself in some dozen countries around the globe. Now the Nigerian terrorist group Boko Haram has pledged its "allegiance" to ISIS' leader.
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ISIS is nuttier than squirrel turds! Crazy bunch of radicals, who need to be beat the hell up! The U.S. steps up and makes history when it needs to be made! Cut the body of the snake and it still lives, cut the head off and kill it dead!!!
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I've gone in depth on what I think we should do in another post, but I'll summarize the key points here.
-The retaliation towards ISIS has to come from Iraq (or at least appear to) in order to strengthen their legitimacy in the eyes of the people.
-The U.S. should utilize our overwhelming logistical strength instead of our force in order to assist Iraq in their counter-offensive.
-U.S. Special Forces should be utilized to augment the Iraqi forces.
-Airstrikes should be reigned back and utilized only for actual confirmed targets to minimalize infrastructure damage and civilian casualties in order to limit ISIS propaganda and build support for the Iraqi government.
There was more, with lots of explanation towards each point, but this should give you the gist of it. If you have a question about something I said or would like me to go more in depth on any of the points just ask, I'd be happy to clarify.
-The retaliation towards ISIS has to come from Iraq (or at least appear to) in order to strengthen their legitimacy in the eyes of the people.
-The U.S. should utilize our overwhelming logistical strength instead of our force in order to assist Iraq in their counter-offensive.
-U.S. Special Forces should be utilized to augment the Iraqi forces.
-Airstrikes should be reigned back and utilized only for actual confirmed targets to minimalize infrastructure damage and civilian casualties in order to limit ISIS propaganda and build support for the Iraqi government.
There was more, with lots of explanation towards each point, but this should give you the gist of it. If you have a question about something I said or would like me to go more in depth on any of the points just ask, I'd be happy to clarify.
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I just read this and watched the news clip and am wondering why the president won't tell where they are or support the way to stop it. This concerns me that our men may be going into something they should not. I will be praying for our men and women in battles these days.
http://xtribune.com/2015/02/obama-protecting-isis-new-shocking-report-raises-serious-questions-treason/
maybe hold the president accountable and stop being afraid.
http://xtribune.com/2015/02/obama-protecting-isis-new-shocking-report-raises-serious-questions-treason/
maybe hold the president accountable and stop being afraid.
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I say screw it hit them with a couple of MOAB'S and let Allah and the god's of pork worry about it from there!!!!! Or just start bombing them with pork filled bomb's
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1SG: This problem is very deep. If we militarily go in and just knock off ISIS (assuming it's that simple), then in 5-10 years, if that long, another group will rise to fill the void. Most likely Shi'ite militants backed by Iran. If we really want to fix this, we must understand the history. The west (read as Europe) imposed the modern state boundries in that region after the fall of the last caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, at the end of WWI. Since President Obama in his infinite wisdom has seen it prudent to toss the dictators, ISIS emerged to re-establish the caliphate. Iran would like to do something similar, either under the guise of a caliphate or re-establishing the late great Persian Empire.
That said, how do we deal with the current threat. Well, we must militarily defeat them, and realize that true democracies in that part of the world will likely never work. They don't understand them, and the corruption and the power the warlords have is too much for a fledging democracy to weather especially when the US military backing and protection is pulled long before full stability is reached. So, we will likely need to install strong men to once again rule these countries. It may be advisable to take the opportunity to reexamine the map, and perhaps divide some of these countries along religous lines so as to attempt encourage peace. A Kurdish state in Northern Iraq. Perhaps a Sunni and Shi'ite subdivisions of Iraq as well.
But ultimately, from a political perspective you will need a strong man, or perhaps a constitutional monarchy - where you have the dictator that is bound to some degree by a parliament. Unfortunately, this answer is not something most in this country see as reasonable because of our bias towards democratic governance. However, I don't see a democracy working over there anytime soon.
That said, how do we deal with the current threat. Well, we must militarily defeat them, and realize that true democracies in that part of the world will likely never work. They don't understand them, and the corruption and the power the warlords have is too much for a fledging democracy to weather especially when the US military backing and protection is pulled long before full stability is reached. So, we will likely need to install strong men to once again rule these countries. It may be advisable to take the opportunity to reexamine the map, and perhaps divide some of these countries along religous lines so as to attempt encourage peace. A Kurdish state in Northern Iraq. Perhaps a Sunni and Shi'ite subdivisions of Iraq as well.
But ultimately, from a political perspective you will need a strong man, or perhaps a constitutional monarchy - where you have the dictator that is bound to some degree by a parliament. Unfortunately, this answer is not something most in this country see as reasonable because of our bias towards democratic governance. However, I don't see a democracy working over there anytime soon.
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I guess your meme forgot we're also using airstrikes and really that meme is just inflammatory and untrue.
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This is worthwhile reading on this topic
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
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