Posted on Mar 11, 2014
In ranks inspections, PRO? CON? Calling all NCOs!
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Everyone, this counseling statement is real! We know it to be true. There are a lot of blogs here about uniforms after retirement, how to wear headgear, etc. I am proud of my uniform, I do have 6 pair of blues trousers for the constant fluctuation in waist over the year. So tell me about this counseling and your idea of bringing back pay day activities and at least a quarterly in ranks where everyone is inspected. Esprit de Coros was always higher in units where we did them. I think periodic inspections are a PRO.
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Payday activities are no longer a thing? My unit was doing them as recently as when I got out of the Army in 2012.
And to answer the original question, of course in ranks inspections are beneficial.
And to answer the original question, of course in ranks inspections are beneficial.
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I did Chief, and it was very humorous. I suppose he felt that since he was getting out in the near future he could slack off. Hopefully this reminded him of his duties and responsibilities that he's still expected to uphold until he's officially out.
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Payday activities? whats that? (joke). Its listed on the training calender but rarely executed.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
SSG (Join to see) , if you have an understanding and squared away supervisor, ask for your platoon or section to execute and do it with the whole enchilada so others can witness how it should be done!
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I won't lie to you, I may have been laughing inside if I were typing this up..
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I read the counseling statement, and to tell you the truth, most civilian companies really don't give a crap about military enlistment anymore. (statement from my own personal experiences)
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I'm know, I know...I'm weighing in late on this one. That counseling statement was funny, perhaps unintentionally, but it does present a real and recurring problem.
We do accountability formations every morning. What is so bad about occasionally taking a few more minutes to look through the ranks? I "grew up" in an Army where morning parades were an integral part of Mondays. If a Soldier couldn't get a haircut, shave, shower, or clean his laundry over the entire weekend, then there was clearly a problem. NCOs in every organization that I have been in check their Soldiers' rooms every morning. We want to ensure that they aren't living like animals, and as a result, attracting animals. Similarly, we should not have personnel in our uniforms that cannot take care of simple tasks. They become liabilities later. As an example: Soldiers who don't maintain their weapons can't shoot when they're under fire. Inspections enforce self-discipline - a key requirement for any effective person, and not just military members.
We do accountability formations every morning. What is so bad about occasionally taking a few more minutes to look through the ranks? I "grew up" in an Army where morning parades were an integral part of Mondays. If a Soldier couldn't get a haircut, shave, shower, or clean his laundry over the entire weekend, then there was clearly a problem. NCOs in every organization that I have been in check their Soldiers' rooms every morning. We want to ensure that they aren't living like animals, and as a result, attracting animals. Similarly, we should not have personnel in our uniforms that cannot take care of simple tasks. They become liabilities later. As an example: Soldiers who don't maintain their weapons can't shoot when they're under fire. Inspections enforce self-discipline - a key requirement for any effective person, and not just military members.
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"I needed gems for the good of the clan" I couldn't of said that with a straight face. How do you spend that much on a mobile app. There is a "Banksy" work that depicts a man and a woman in an embrace both with their iPhones in hand over the other's shoulder. Anyone ready for the mid-firefight 'selfies'?
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
I don't know, I can tell you that my son SPC (Join to see) spent 500 bills on Minecraft!
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LTC Mark Gavula
BLUF: It is a necessary evil. When I joined my first Cav unit in 1985, Guard Mount was part of the unit culture. So every SDO had to inspect the Guards for that evening. For me, I had to learn how to conduct an in ranks inspection correctly. The guards competed for the Colonel's Numerary (never knew the correct spelling) and his back up. I doubt a guard mount is conducted today in any cavalry units, and is one of the traditions that is only a memory.
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I used to do a lot of Presidential detail during the Bush Jr. administration and have been to Arlington National Cemetery a few times. The only place I know of any [formal] guard mount happening are at Arlington National with the 4th ID out of Fort Carson, when performing the Mounted Color Guard. They do it before [every] funeral detail. Now, there may be others [I] don't know of, I'm not speaking for others, this is the only one I know of.
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WOW!! I'm totally dumbfounded! "Clash of Clans" huh?! At [least] come up with something good like "I had a vehicular emergency and was short on funds, so I [had] no other option", at [least] it would be buyable!
I have seen, a few times, where people let their uniforms get [almost] unserviceable and wait until the last day before an inspection to rush like a madman and fix their uniforms! Their supervisors would not say anything until the last moment, which is absolutely unacceptable!
I was [always] proud to wear my uniform and looked at it as a privilege, so I [always] kept my uniforms up to standards (and more as possible)! There should be none of this "wait until the last moment to adhere to regulations". The regulations should [always] be adhered to and if this happens, there is [actually] a lot less work and stress on the part of the troops [and] the NCOs. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"!
1%....and these [under-performing/under-achieving] idiots don't understand what an HONOR has been bestowed upon them! Not [everyone] who goes into that recruiter's office, or makes it to MEPS, or even makes it to Basic Training, (and some even tech-school) makes it into the operational military! They are INCREDIBLY fortunate....and they p!ss all over it! I just don't get that!
A [personal] little leadership quote I came up with a few years back and, yes, it is my own, so there is no one to quote, but me: "Stand up, Stand aside, or Stand down..But don't Stand in my way!"
What I mean by it is either "Stand up" and lead, (or) "Stand aside" and fight with me, "or Stand aside" and let me lead.."But don't stand in my way!", because in any case I'm coming through!
I have seen, a few times, where people let their uniforms get [almost] unserviceable and wait until the last day before an inspection to rush like a madman and fix their uniforms! Their supervisors would not say anything until the last moment, which is absolutely unacceptable!
I was [always] proud to wear my uniform and looked at it as a privilege, so I [always] kept my uniforms up to standards (and more as possible)! There should be none of this "wait until the last moment to adhere to regulations". The regulations should [always] be adhered to and if this happens, there is [actually] a lot less work and stress on the part of the troops [and] the NCOs. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"!
1%....and these [under-performing/under-achieving] idiots don't understand what an HONOR has been bestowed upon them! Not [everyone] who goes into that recruiter's office, or makes it to MEPS, or even makes it to Basic Training, (and some even tech-school) makes it into the operational military! They are INCREDIBLY fortunate....and they p!ss all over it! I just don't get that!
A [personal] little leadership quote I came up with a few years back and, yes, it is my own, so there is no one to quote, but me: "Stand up, Stand aside, or Stand down..But don't Stand in my way!"
What I mean by it is either "Stand up" and lead, (or) "Stand aside" and fight with me, "or Stand aside" and let me lead.."But don't stand in my way!", because in any case I'm coming through!
CW5 Sam R. Baker
TEX, for an Air Force guy, you are a breath of fresh air! HOOAH, I like it and what you had to say! Chief
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Thank you Chief....I appreciate the comment. I would have responded earlier Chief, but I only had my phone and I don't like typing on it if I don't have to....I tend to "fat finger" every thing.
Anyway....My Dad is an old school Marine of the Vietnam war and for a while thereafter. I don't know what all he did, or experienced, in the war, I know he was a Sniper, but other than that....nothing. The only thing I have of his "adventures" are a couple of black & white, faded, photos of him over there with his rifle.
My Dad taught my brother and I how to shoot like an old school Marine snipers, fight like old school Marines....hell, he taught us discipline and disciplined us like old school Marines too! My brother and I went into the Air Force. Every male born into my family lineage, as far back as we can trace, has served in every branch of the military.
My son will be graduating Air Force Basic Training in a few days and will be training for the same job I was in, Aircraft Loadmaster. I hope he gets the same weapons platform. As long as he is in the top percentage of his class he should have a chance. I raised him like my Dad did me, so....we'll see.
Anyway....My Dad is an old school Marine of the Vietnam war and for a while thereafter. I don't know what all he did, or experienced, in the war, I know he was a Sniper, but other than that....nothing. The only thing I have of his "adventures" are a couple of black & white, faded, photos of him over there with his rifle.
My Dad taught my brother and I how to shoot like an old school Marine snipers, fight like old school Marines....hell, he taught us discipline and disciplined us like old school Marines too! My brother and I went into the Air Force. Every male born into my family lineage, as far back as we can trace, has served in every branch of the military.
My son will be graduating Air Force Basic Training in a few days and will be training for the same job I was in, Aircraft Loadmaster. I hope he gets the same weapons platform. As long as he is in the top percentage of his class he should have a chance. I raised him like my Dad did me, so....we'll see.
CW5 Sam R. Baker
SSgt Christopher "TEX" Fowler , ah the Marines, yes you probably had a pretty regimented upbringing, but not a negative thing. I totally agree with typing on the cell phone, hell even my iPad burns me occasionally. My Dad was not in the service, nor any of anyone on my dad's side, but my mom's, well everyone was connected to the Army. My uncle(s) are the main reason for my enlistment, they were mentors and role models I respected as a young man without direction.
Congratulations on your son graduating. My daughter is a 2016 USNA graduate, so a year and a half more before I have a Squid in the family legitimately! Her cousin is in the Navy ROTC at Auburn also. The load master thing I can deal with, as a Chinook pilot we are expected to know and be responsible for the back of our airframe. I quickly found out that C5 pilots are not. The load master is. I found this out the hard way while at Kandahar and watching them work a F-18 into the back of a C5.
Long story, but needless to say they spent an extra 4 days there waiting for a AWR to fly the bird home!
Congratulations on your son graduating. My daughter is a 2016 USNA graduate, so a year and a half more before I have a Squid in the family legitimately! Her cousin is in the Navy ROTC at Auburn also. The load master thing I can deal with, as a Chinook pilot we are expected to know and be responsible for the back of our airframe. I quickly found out that C5 pilots are not. The load master is. I found this out the hard way while at Kandahar and watching them work a F-18 into the back of a C5.
Long story, but needless to say they spent an extra 4 days there waiting for a AWR to fly the bird home!
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GO NAVY!! I cheer all services! I don't hold one over the other, I hold them all equal, for the most part. Each has their own strengths and each is an integral part of the armed services....just like a piece in a jigsaw puzzle.
My daughter wants to go into the Navy and become a doctor, so I encourage her, whichever service she decides to go into....although I would like to see her go into the Air Force. Hey....I'm an Air Force guy, I do have to be true to my service. But like I said, at the end of the day, it's her choice and I support her.
My daughter wants to go into the Navy and become a doctor, so I encourage her, whichever service she decides to go into....although I would like to see her go into the Air Force. Hey....I'm an Air Force guy, I do have to be true to my service. But like I said, at the end of the day, it's her choice and I support her.
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As we draw down, in-ranks inspections should be utilized more. There is a since of pride in wearing your dress uniforms, and they should be properly maintained.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
SFC (Join to see) , that is part of the point, not to mention the possibly youth and their addiction to the video gaming, seeing it take away from situational awareness of even a company commander makes me worry about our future. Uniform prep, fit and wear is a good indicator of one who cares and is prideful of their profession, thanks for responding.
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That's funny....personally I spent my clothing allowance on another games in app purchases, I needed more gold!
Seriously though I have 2 sets of asu that fit as they should. In ranks inspections are good things to do from time to time. But one should never need an inspection to tell you whether your uniform is jacked up or not.
Seriously though I have 2 sets of asu that fit as they should. In ranks inspections are good things to do from time to time. But one should never need an inspection to tell you whether your uniform is jacked up or not.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
My 14 year old understands it to the tune of more than $500 bucks and an addiction issue that may require counseling!
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Not only do I think that junior level inspections should happen more often (squad and platoon), I also think ASAP should start to include treatment for gaming addiction.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
HOOAH SSG Trevor S. , I am in your circle 100% on this one. Thanks for the reply and participation.
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