Posted on Mar 11, 2014
In ranks inspections, PRO? CON? Calling all NCOs!
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Everyone, this counseling statement is real! We know it to be true. There are a lot of blogs here about uniforms after retirement, how to wear headgear, etc. I am proud of my uniform, I do have 6 pair of blues trousers for the constant fluctuation in waist over the year. So tell me about this counseling and your idea of bringing back pay day activities and at least a quarterly in ranks where everyone is inspected. Esprit de Coros was always higher in units where we did them. I think periodic inspections are a PRO.
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Posted 12 y ago
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Oh my! I kind of think this counseling letter is HILARIOUS! Especially as I'm not a big computer game person, and therefore feel it my God-given right... nay, my DUTY to decry those individuals as often as possible! And here, with your post, I'm given more ammunition! Thank you!
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
SrA Ben Barton , you're welcome, anything I can for another service member is a day I feel like I have contributed to the country I love so much! HOOAH! Oh it's an Army thing!
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My current unit does observe Payday Activities by wearing the ASU, complete. Our SGM makes his way around to each section during the day and spot checks. In-ranks are probably coming back soon, and I am a big fan of that. If you don't check, you don't know. If you don't know, then it is hard to validate that your folks are doing the right thing and damn near impossible to fix things if they are broke. Take the time and check. It will pay dividends in the future for that subordinate...
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I believe that In-Ranks Inspections are necessary. Of course after almost 13 Years at War there needs to be some training on how to properly Maintain, wear, and care for individual equipment. It seems that this has been lost during our time of conflict.
As far as the counseling it is the weakest counseling that I have ever seen. The individual who wrote it should be trained on proper counseling. It honestly holds no weight. I work very hard to teach my Non-Commissioned Officers how to write not only counselings but evaluation reports.
Finally there are not enough on the spot corrections. It seems as though individuals are afraid to say anything. Wrong Answer!
As far as the counseling it is the weakest counseling that I have ever seen. The individual who wrote it should be trained on proper counseling. It honestly holds no weight. I work very hard to teach my Non-Commissioned Officers how to write not only counselings but evaluation reports.
Finally there are not enough on the spot corrections. It seems as though individuals are afraid to say anything. Wrong Answer!
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
SSG (Join to see) , I agree with you on the counseling, but the humor side of it draws to grab people into the conversation. I like your attitude, keep doing it the way you do and you will reap the rewards and benefits of it!
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I'll never forget the stairs up to our bay in BCT (1997) which said as you ascended them: "Look sharp. Act sharp. Be sharp." A good leader can help develop a Soldiers' pride in their uniform, their unit, which in turn builds an Esprit de Corps.
As a young Soldier I had a lot of pride in my Platoon marching around Schofield, sounding off, everyone in step and looking sharp. My NCOs showed up squared away, and expected us to be squared away. They took the time to show us, and that demonstrated their concern and dedication. So many lessons (which can be overlooked) can be taught to young Soldiers if we take the time to teach them; attention to detail, military tradition, proper wear and care of the uniform are just a couple.
As a young Soldier I had a lot of pride in my Platoon marching around Schofield, sounding off, everyone in step and looking sharp. My NCOs showed up squared away, and expected us to be squared away. They took the time to show us, and that demonstrated their concern and dedication. So many lessons (which can be overlooked) can be taught to young Soldiers if we take the time to teach them; attention to detail, military tradition, proper wear and care of the uniform are just a couple.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
SFC (Join to see) , I like your stairs and believe it also.
Singing the Army and Division Songs proudly rate up there also, hell knowing the words!
Singing the Army and Division Songs proudly rate up there also, hell knowing the words!
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I am glad that this "NCO" will be getting out of the Army soon so he can focus on playing his lame game on his phone
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
True SFC (Join to see) , we need to help and assist others also, regardless of rank who exhibit similar traits.
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Chief,
We need this now more than ever. I believe that it will sharpen a soldiers attention to detail, and improve espirit de corps. I know there will be some sighs out there, but I remember the days of wearing my B's to work every day. It's a good idea.
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LTC Mark Gavula
SSG Jeffrey, your statement has merit except for one thing. Having taught SROTC and had to wear B's (or as we called it back then, the TRADOC Leisure Suit ) to work 3 out of 5 days, I would not wish that on anyone.
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1SG Ronald Philips
In rank inspections serve a purpose if they are called for and used for a purpose.
I can understand lay outs, accountability, in rare cases uniform inspections.
As we are now an all volunteer service. I think we we need to rely More on on the spot corrections by the SM line NCOs and less on formal inspections.
The one exception to the above would me command ordered inspections.
Combat before, during and after inspections were not included in my discussion.
I can understand lay outs, accountability, in rare cases uniform inspections.
As we are now an all volunteer service. I think we we need to rely More on on the spot corrections by the SM line NCOs and less on formal inspections.
The one exception to the above would me command ordered inspections.
Combat before, during and after inspections were not included in my discussion.
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I read through the counseling statement wondering if I knew the guy this was written for... Either way, an NCO must do an in ranks inspection of the ASU at least once a quarter, and he must be in uniform as well.
On a slightly related topic, you know what I hate? Coming into work on monday and having to have an inspection ready uniform, and immediately following the inspection go out to the motor pool and get under the vehicles and PMCS them. I once changed into a different (not the one for the inspection) uniform and was scolded by my supervisor. I feel that inspecting a uniform and then rolling around in the dirt is ignorant. I do see the need to keep a uniform in good presentable and professional condition, but I also feel that Soldiers should not wear that uniform for the whole working day. If a Soldier goes home clean he hasn't worked or trained hard enough that day.
I believe in the field uniform.
On a slightly related topic, you know what I hate? Coming into work on monday and having to have an inspection ready uniform, and immediately following the inspection go out to the motor pool and get under the vehicles and PMCS them. I once changed into a different (not the one for the inspection) uniform and was scolded by my supervisor. I feel that inspecting a uniform and then rolling around in the dirt is ignorant. I do see the need to keep a uniform in good presentable and professional condition, but I also feel that Soldiers should not wear that uniform for the whole working day. If a Soldier goes home clean he hasn't worked or trained hard enough that day.
I believe in the field uniform.
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CW5 Sam R. Baker
Oh I do believe in the field uniform too, but I would never call for a service uniform inspection on a Monday, always on Friday and a slightly relaxed schedule with only mission essentials taking care of business and then doing something for the family or themselves. Thanks for participating SFC (Join to see)
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