Posted on Feb 13, 2015
Interesting fact about evading DUI checkpoints. Is it wrong to know this? Not a pro-DUI thread.
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http://reason.com/blog/2015/02/12/libertarian-lawyer-offers-this-one-trick
This post is not meant to support Drunk Driving. The purpose is to have a discussion about check points. Liberty should be protected and drunk driving will eventually cause the taking of the ultimate liberty, a persons right to life.
This post is not meant to support Drunk Driving. The purpose is to have a discussion about check points. Liberty should be protected and drunk driving will eventually cause the taking of the ultimate liberty, a persons right to life.
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I've been feeling for years now that we're getting a little insane with the DUI laws - and I really think a lot of it has to do with the fact that a LOT of people make a lot of money from it (police, courts, urine testing businesses, jails, rehabs, etc). I don't want someone with a .25 BAC out driving, but I really don't care if someone has a few beers before driving. I've been seeing articles recently where some people want the legal limit to be ZERO. Fact is, someone with even up to a 0.1 BAC is most likely just fine to drive.
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Sgt Adam Jennings
Well Capt Porter, you seem to be the only one with an issue here, well, you and Lt Scott. Like I said, I'm done with this. I made my point that it absolutely is not unconstitutional, so in done with this discussion.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SFC William Laws ha ha ha... I might have made a copy error. Nice catch! The original link is above.
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MAJ (Join to see)
SFC William Laws Let me try again:
BAC = 0, 63%
BAC = .08-.07, 5%
BAC = .08-.14, 9%
BAC = +.15, 22%
BAC = 0, 63%
BAC = .08-.07, 5%
BAC = .08-.14, 9%
BAC = +.15, 22%
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SGT Jim Z.
SFC William Laws Thank you for sharing however, here is the data from 2001 from one of the cited references in the story you shared http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html
Most recent drunk driving statistics compiled from various sources
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Easy call for me - know your rights / know your responsibilities / know the limits of police authority. BUT, when police are exceeding their authority and violating your rights, arguing with them about it (i.e. resisting) is likely to end badly for you.
The tactic described in this thread is effective based on the type of detention being imposed and the very strict guidelines police are operating within to stay on the legal side of the SCOTUS ruling legalizing checkpoints. Great info-graphic that describes this at following link:
http://www.online-paralegal-programs.com/legal-rights/
The tactic described in this thread is effective based on the type of detention being imposed and the very strict guidelines police are operating within to stay on the legal side of the SCOTUS ruling legalizing checkpoints. Great info-graphic that describes this at following link:
http://www.online-paralegal-programs.com/legal-rights/
You Have the Right to Stay Out of Jail - Online Paralegal Programs
Share this infographic on your site! Source: Online-Paralegal-Programs.com Knowing Your Rights Amendment IV – The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no … Continue reading
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I see a lot of talk here about ones rights, but what about the rights of the victim when that drunk kills or cripples them. How about your right to drive down a road free of impaired drivers.
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MAJ (Join to see)
CPL Rick Stasny I agree with the rights of the victim, that is what makes this topic difficult.
CW3 (Join to see), MAJ Dallas D. , SSG (Join to see), and everyone else, I am gald to see that we are all sensitive and professional at the same time. If only the rest of society could be the same way. Everyone in this discussion reminds me what I miss about being a full timer. Regardless of rank the military is above average in awareness.
CW3 (Join to see), MAJ Dallas D. , SSG (Join to see), and everyone else, I am gald to see that we are all sensitive and professional at the same time. If only the rest of society could be the same way. Everyone in this discussion reminds me what I miss about being a full timer. Regardless of rank the military is above average in awareness.
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CW3 (Join to see)
CPL Rick Stasny Nice try, but the old "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" is nothing more than the same old same old. It isn't good policing, and the Supreme Court has succumbed to politics.
There's someone ON THIS BOARD who stated outright that even if he GOT his weapon when he went to buy it, waiting 15 minutes for a background check was an infringement on his 2nd amendment rights. Seems like we only want to pick and choose what rights are important.
Having said that, I can get your point of view. You probably didn't grow up being hassled by cops merely because your presence made someone nervous.
There's someone ON THIS BOARD who stated outright that even if he GOT his weapon when he went to buy it, waiting 15 minutes for a background check was an infringement on his 2nd amendment rights. Seems like we only want to pick and choose what rights are important.
Having said that, I can get your point of view. You probably didn't grow up being hassled by cops merely because your presence made someone nervous.
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CPL Rick Stasny
I appreciate your comments sir. I can only speak for myself, but I can say without reservation that anytime I was involved in a DUI checkpoint, I treated each person with the upmost respect. Granted, I live in an area that is surrounded by small communities, and some of the ones that came through I have known for a long time. If anything I have ever played a part in saved one life or made a positive impact on an at risk individual, then I satisfied with the the time I spent in uniform.
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