Posted on Feb 13, 2015
Interesting fact about evading DUI checkpoints. Is it wrong to know this? Not a pro-DUI thread.
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http://reason.com/blog/2015/02/12/libertarian-lawyer-offers-this-one-trick
This post is not meant to support Drunk Driving. The purpose is to have a discussion about check points. Liberty should be protected and drunk driving will eventually cause the taking of the ultimate liberty, a persons right to life.
This post is not meant to support Drunk Driving. The purpose is to have a discussion about check points. Liberty should be protected and drunk driving will eventually cause the taking of the ultimate liberty, a persons right to life.
Edited 11 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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It's never wrong to be more informed. I get the idea of standing up and saying you can't do this to me because of X, Y and Z, but at the same time I do not drink and drive so search away
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Being the cynic & former police officer that I am, I will wait with baited breath for the lawsuit filed by someone who's family member was killed by someone who went through a checkpoint, but held up the "call my lawyer" sign & was let pass through.
I can see it now. The blame will be shifted to the officers that allowed the driver to go through the checkpoint w/o "forcing" the driver to submit to an ID check. Just like if an officer allows a "buzzed driver" to continue driving if they pass the standardized tests & then get into a fatality accident a mile down the road. The officer would be held liable to some extent because they had stopped them, but did not prevent them from driving away. (I would ALWAYS make them call a sober driver).
I can see it now. The blame will be shifted to the officers that allowed the driver to go through the checkpoint w/o "forcing" the driver to submit to an ID check. Just like if an officer allows a "buzzed driver" to continue driving if they pass the standardized tests & then get into a fatality accident a mile down the road. The officer would be held liable to some extent because they had stopped them, but did not prevent them from driving away. (I would ALWAYS make them call a sober driver).
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LTC (Join to see)
The biggest innocent is the Law Enforcement Officer how follows the rules. He or she doesn't make law or policy. He or she likly thinks only to protect and serve.
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SSgt (Join to see)
yet it is the officer that is only doing what the lawmakers tell them they HAVE to do that catches all the crap! believe me, i know that all too well...lol
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With as much preaching that the military does about having a plan, having a wingman, whatever the case, there is no excuse for military members to drink and drive. Period. If you drink and get behind the wheel of a vehicle, you are putting the people around you at more risk than yourself. The fact that someone would post how to "bypass" a checkpoint is extremely bad judgement.
If you are going to drink, have a plan. If that plan falls through, call a cab, call a friend, call a supervisor (we would much rather pick you up at a bar at 0200 than a jail, worse yet tell your family you won't be coming home).
If you are going to drink, have a plan. If that plan falls through, call a cab, call a friend, call a supervisor (we would much rather pick you up at a bar at 0200 than a jail, worse yet tell your family you won't be coming home).
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I see nothing wrong with it however, do not treat a traffic stop in the same manner because if someone was to treat a traffic stop like a check point, that driver would only find him or herself being forced to exit the vehicle and charged with a slew of charges.
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Driving after drinking a few beers, drunk, high, whatever. Most of us have done it, more than once; It is prohibited by local and state laws. If the Feds have to get involved, it will do more harm than good. Example: a blow start mechanism? For ALL vehicles, Really? That is insane and will never happen. It will kill business. I am absolutely against DUI and would never condone that poor choice. I have lost 2 childhood friends because of someone's inability to call a taxi. However, while DUI is illegal, drinking is not. Drink responsibly.
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Giggles...there is nothing wrong with having a Lil knowledge...hehe maybe a few of my buds and me need to get in r POV'S and try this....smoky bear wouldn't know what to think hahahaha
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Sounds legit! Is it ethical? Probably not. But most people get a dui because they submit themselves to a breathalyzer without a warrant.
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SPC Christopher Green
I can't speak for all states but I do know that several states will automatically suspend your license for one full year for your refusal to submit to a breathalyzer. More often than not, that is much longer than it would be if you blew over the legal limit. I can't say for sure, but many people may do a brief cost/benefit analysis and roll the dice hoping they are under the legal limit. There is something that must be added. Many states do not require an actual b.a.c. To charge and convict you of a OVI/DUI/DWI, Sometimes the officer's observation of the detained individual is sufficient for one to conclude that the driver was impaired.
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I had a point to make, but given that I've had to get involved more as a member-admin on this post I don't want my personal perspective to be considered. Instead I'll stick to commenting on professionalism on some of the sub-threads for now.
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