Posted on Jan 17, 2014
Is a mustache unprofessional even if within regs??
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I've recently been made aware that it's considered unprofessional for an officer to even have a mustache, regardless of whether or not it's within regulations.<br><br>Where did that come from? I have some serious heartburn with it. As long as my mustache conforms to 670-1 and I'm not trying to push the envelope with it, I should be able to have one. I really don't see it as unprofessional or getting in the way of my doing my job to the best of my ability.<br><br>
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Count how many O-4's and up have mustaches, in the next two weeks. And you have your answer... It's not "unprofessional" as much as it is "un-promotable". The brass do not like facial hair, for the most part. Which is a large part of why I have facial hair now... hehe... FREEDOM!!! Hope this helps.
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I think it only makes you more prone to the creeper or pedophile stereotype. In all seriousness- have never heard that before
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Adding to an Army Regulation in MOST cases is taking away from the regulation of topic. Its an Army Regulation for a reason with no asterisk or fine print saying "This is the minimum standard". Now, IF you all were tasked to conduct an upcoming mission and the 'mustache' would hinder performance or counter act progress for a successful mission, then I can see where being 'ordered' to shave is necessary. Just because the officer corps deem having a mustache "unprofessional" doesn't mean they can just throw an AR out of relevance without valid reason: i.e.: "The SGM won't let you on the plane with that." or "That's not an officer thing." But again, mission dictates.
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I had the same initial reaction when I was told that a few years ago. Situation was that one of my S-shop OICs shook his head after one of our prior-enlisted PLs passed by him. I asked him what was wrong; he told me that officers don't sport mustaches.
I think it's a commissioned Army subculture thing. Like the whole deal with first names and a lot of lieutenants not saluting each other. Maybe it's even that the mustache is considered an enlisted thing? Who knows. I just know that I'll steer clear of the flavor saver in an effort to not stand out for something other than my achievements; which will indirectly support that norm.
I think it's a commissioned Army subculture thing. Like the whole deal with first names and a lot of lieutenants not saluting each other. Maybe it's even that the mustache is considered an enlisted thing? Who knows. I just know that I'll steer clear of the flavor saver in an effort to not stand out for something other than my achievements; which will indirectly support that norm.
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Capt Andre Toman
In OIF at Balad, it was almost customary for pilots to sport moustaches. Back home I can't remember ever seeing pilots with one. It was a rather strange phenomenon. The one nice thing about the military is there is a reg for everything (almost), so it takes the guess work out of a lot of things, even if the reg is arguably stupid. If the brass doesn't want officers (or anyone for that matter) wearing moustaches, they should change the reg.
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I remember many guys who looked like Hitler with their small mustaches. No bad feelings towards them but it was not for me.
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Don't keep up with whats currently happening there, these days; other than the returning Vet getting hosed, left and right. In more ways than a few, I and me ship mates got away with 'murder'....but to nitpick really ticked us off. Me and my guys smoked pot pertnear religiously. We were port and starboard, for 30+ days. But buy the grace of God, or because we knew what we were doing, we were awarded the first "greenC" in excellence in communications. THIS told me many things of those that wielded the power of 'bullshit', other than the Gov't at large. Better get off my soapbox....luck to you
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I hear you, that was my 'most usual bust' at inspections. Talk about splitting hairs. The older vets told me "peacetime" Navy is a bitch. I believe its wrong. andthen there were sideburns...
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Petty Officer Jackelen,
No, I don't mean if the mustache is outside regulation at all. If I'm out of regs, I accept correction professionally. What I mean is that since I became an officer in July 2008, other officers tell me that we shouldn't have a mustache *at all*....
No, I don't mean if the mustache is outside regulation at all. If I'm out of regs, I accept correction professionally. What I mean is that since I became an officer in July 2008, other officers tell me that we shouldn't have a mustache *at all*....
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PO2 Jeff Jackelen
they must be "extremely" old school. And even that being said, this seems SO petty. Give me a call iffn you'd like, t'aint the typist I was when I was a Naval RM. Sent u my #
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