Posted on Dec 11, 2019
Is an OER a requirement for promotion from 2LT to 1LT?
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I’m almost at my 18 months TIG as a 2LT in the National Guard. I have about a year of unrated time I’ve served as a PL and the other 5 months was for BOLC. I’m just wondering if an OER is required in order to promote because if so, that means I’d have to wait another whole year to even get promoted at the state level. Any input would help.
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Why unrated time as a PL? Even if not MOQ you still been rated.
Also, for BOLC you get a DA 1059 so you won’t go unrated for that block of time. You really need to get with your raters on that!
Also, for BOLC you get a DA 1059 so you won’t go unrated for that block of time. You really need to get with your raters on that!
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MAJ Javier Rivera
2LT (Join to see) you still have to get an OER with whatever codes for that unrated time. Get with your rater chain and discuss the issue after getting to l ow AR 623-3. Remember, they are required (non negotiable) to counsel you in a quarterly basis.
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SGM Jeff Mccloud
MAJ Javier Rivera - Anything prior to completion of BOLC is unrated time. In the Guard and Reserves that could be 3 to 12 months. BOLC is also unrated (on the OER it is unrated code S, because that time is rated on an AER). The rating chain should wrap up an OER as soon as they have 120 days past BOLC, with the pre-BOLC and BOLC time unrated codes, and the last 120 days rated. 120 is the minimum for the reserve components, like 90 days for active.
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MAJ Javier Rivera
That I know SGM Jeff Mccloud . But from the original post -and I could be wrong - 2LT (Join to see) has absolutely nothing: no AER nor ORB to account for all that time.
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This is a question you will need to bring to the National Guard. It is impossible for an active duty 2LT to go that long without an OER.
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2LT (Join to see)
I’m guessing that’s why I can’t find a specific answer in the regs that I’ve looked at
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LTC (Join to see)
The answer is they're lazy and don't want to do one. Ask your Officer's branch at state HQ what needs to happen. They will set you in the right direction. Once they confirm you need a yearly OER, have them email that and take it to your commander/rater (whichever) and move forward. Make sure you have your OER support form completed so you have your part done. Good luck.
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Even if you were not MOSQ, you should have gotten an OER. Someone dropped the ball and, honestly, you should have brought this up 6-7 months ago. You should be able to get whoever your rater was for that time period to complete an OER for the period in question.
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2LT (Join to see)
When I brought it up to the BN S1, I was told I will receive one a year after completion of BOLC or one after I get a new commander. He did mention that it would be coded to include the unrated time though.
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LTC (Join to see)
I'm not a 42A but that doesn't seem right. It sounds like someone humped the bunk and didn't do your OER and now they just want to kick the can down the road instead of fixing the problem. From my understanding of AR 623-3, you still should have gotten an OER and your "unrated time" should have been coded as such. I attended phase II ILE for 8 months in lieu of drill and still got an OER. When I was enlisted, I attended a 12 month 14T school in lieu of drill and still got an NCOER. Sounds to me like someone just doesn't want to do their job.
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