Posted on May 16, 2016
SGT Edward Wilcox
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When I was in Germany in the early '80s, a fellow medic wrote on a form "Combat Medic" for his MOS. When our Platoon Sargent(a Vietnam veteran) saw that, he made the private change it, and told him that he has never seen combat, and therefore, is not a "Combat Medic". So, does one have to have seen actual combat to take the title Combat Medic, or Combat Engineer or anything else you can put 'Combat' in front of? Or is it enough to simply have served in a combat zone?
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MSgt P H.
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As a member of a sister service, USAF, who was lucky enough to have had the opportunity to train with some of the best medical personnel in 3 branches. I received the EFMB back in 1994, prior to that I was a EMT-B and Flight medic. I wore that EFMB badge with honor because in my branch not many were able to accomplish, nor be afforded the opportunity to, gain that badge. I was also trained in Swift water rescue, High to low angle rope rescue, Wilderness advanced rescue and Dive Medicine Technician/ Hyperbarics. I worked for and with SF units and Marine units. I have seen the African savanna and the deep cold of the Arctic, I have worked SERE and Helo-rescue, I was a Independent duty medic / Paramedic for 15 years. But with all that I never considered myself a "Combat" medic until bullets flew and friends fell. Doesn't the Army make that distinction also? Doesn't it state that the "Combat Medic Badge" is Awarded for Performing medical duties while being actively engaged by the enemy. Otherwise it is just an "Expert Field Medical Badge"
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MSgt Chris Chambre
MSgt Chris Chambre
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I just don't see the difference other than the location, the adrenaline, the thought process and the responsibility are the same. To have something imply that you lack the quality doesn't seem like a real test. If anything the reality of the situation increases concentration and decreases nerves in my experience, maybe easier than the constant worry of making an error judgment that you could get sued for. I think that kind of freedom makes you an even better provider.
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SGT Jeffrey Dennis
SGT Jeffrey Dennis
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I have an EFMB and CMB. I was a Combat Medic the day I graduated from the Department of Combat Medical Training. Badges don't make you a combat medic. Training does. Combat engineers are the same. When they graduate from Combat Engineer school, they are combat engineers.
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No it is not. But a 68W's primary training is in the treatment of Battlefield Casualties. That it would seem is where this might come from.
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SGT Jeff Hanson
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I simply referred to myself as a "Whiskey". If more description was requested then I would respond with "68 Whiskey, medic". I'm sure there was a time where I felt the need to toot my horn; by the end of my career I was more concerned with weather or not the Joe's trusted me enough to come to me when they needed me rather than what I called myself. Knowing your guys trust you is so much more gratifying than a title.....at least for me.
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SPC Brian Mason
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Yes. Why? We are trained as EMT's. EMT's are NOT trained in combat skills and do NOT see combat. That is what police are for. We are also trained other variety of medical field skills. That does NOT make us combat, it makes us EMERGENCY Trauma and Medicine. Combat revolves around us being attacked and having to defend ourselves.
There is an entire museum in Texas about the history of the Medic. To cheapen it by giving that title to undeployed, non-combat experienced medics is sad and insulting to those who have died and us who have earned it.
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MSG Mark Million
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The "Combat" in Combat medic in my opinion was not designed to say that the medic using that designation has been in combat, it was designed to say that the medic is trained to be able to operate in a combat environment. The whole controversy here is how people choose to look at what the designation is trying to say. I am sure that the intent was to say basically "healthcare specialist with skills designed to operate in a combat environment".
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SPC Brian Mason
SPC Brian Mason
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There's a difference between being 'trained' for combat situations and actually going through them more than a few times. The fact that the military uses PC labels on almost everything is ridiculous. Civilians don't need to know what we do. That's why one can get a Veteran rep and one's military training record to get it translated for civilian use. So yes, we have Combat Medics and then we have COMBAT MEDICS. You have green EMTs and then season/veteran EMTs. Big difference.
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This is such an interesting question......I had never thought of calling myself anything but a combat medic. I was trained and then went on to attain the LPN license which now deems me a 68W. There has been so many changes in the titles in the last twenty years. I have gone to every place the military has ever told me to go, but after having children my husband I agreed not to volunteer for any combat tours. The military always deemed that my skill-set was needed CONUS. I am trained and therefore I consider myself a combat medic. I have applied these skills in the civilian setting at vehicle and BMX related accidents. I think that the point the Soldier was trying to make is that the MOS is currently titled "medical specialist." The training is totally geared toward combat care and not the clinical setting. I also believe that some Soldiers feel that unless you serve in a combat zone, you do not deserve or understand the experience. I feel that this judgement is rather unfortunate because you might be overlooking the value of great Soldiers because they don't have a patch. Soldiers do not always choose their path. The important thing is to do the best and give all that you have to the position and situation in which you find yourself. I have listed below the history of titles and number changes related to the "Combat Medic". Honored to serve........1SG Christie Fields
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It makes me Currently known as 68W, the Army's basic medical MOS was changed, effective October 1, 2006. During the Vietnam War era, the MOS codes 91W (91 Whiskey, nuclear medicine specialist), 91B (91 Bravo, medical NCO) and 91A (91 Alpha, medical corpsman) were used.

The Department of the Army Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel issued a notice for future change for the MOS 91B and 91C (Licensed Practical Nurse) in September 1999. The notice established the transition of personnel holding both MOSs to 91W to begin on 1 October 2001 and end on 30 September 2007. The 91W MOS required additional training and the maintenance of civilian EMT certification which was previously optional for soldiers. Army personnel holding MOS 91C would become 91Ws (and later 68Ws) with an additional skill identifier of M6. During the transitory period, all 91B and 91C classified soldiers were given the Y2 identifier until completion of additional training to become 91W, reclassification to a different MOS, or discharge from the US Army.
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SP5 Peter Keane
SP5 Peter Keane
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If you don't have this you are a medic. plain and simple
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SPC William Weedman
SPC William Weedman
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SP5 Peter Keane - I believe my best friend who earned the 101st Airborne Patch and a Bronze Star with "V" device and no Purple Heart would disagree with you. He also has the right to wear the EFMB or the CMB.
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SP5 Peter Keane
SP5 Peter Keane
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SPC William Weedman - I think you misunderstood. I was showing a picture of the CMB on the frame. If he has a CMB, he is a Combat Medic, but he cannot wear both. The CMB supercedes the EFMB
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SPC William Weedman
SPC William Weedman
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@SP5 Peter Keane I do get it. He earned his EFMB prior to his deployment. In his BDUs, after he became a senior NCO he would wear his EFMB to confuse people, who paid attention to detail, saw the combat patch and noticed the EFMB was not correct. His Dress Blues always had the CMB on them.
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SPC Medic
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68W IS COMBAT MEDIC... If you serve as such you are a Combat Medic...
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SP5 Peter Keane
SP5 Peter Keane
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not so young lady. If you do not have the CMB, you are a medic period
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SFC Branch Ncoic,
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pretty sure They (68W) are healthcare specialists. There is no MOS that is titled combat medic or even medic.
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SGT Art O'Hagan
SGT Art O'Hagan
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There was back in the day...I served 1971-1974...and had the MOS of 91-B ...or Combat Medic...never saw combat but the MOS description is Combat Medic in my file...
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SP5 Peter Keane
SP5 Peter Keane
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SGT Art O'Hagan - I want to see that file.
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SFC Donald Chase
SFC Donald Chase
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I taught the Combat Medic course (CMSD) at the Academy of Health Sciences in the early 80's and yes it was designated Combat Medic. What they have done more recently, (I have been retired for some time now) is taken what was then the "Super "B" career progression course" that we wrote on a Paramedic level, backed off on it some to an EMT level and combined it with the "baby Bee" Combat field medic course extended the time (doubled) and changed the entire designation but still they call it the Combat Medic /Healthcare Specialist course. Unless you were active duty during the 80's and in the medical field you probably have no Idea what I am talking about.
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SPC James Anderson
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I served 98-02. Never went anywhere but NTC, only combat I saw was bar fights in Aggieville downtown Manhattan KS, but my DD-214 shows I took a week long "Combat Medic" Class. Its the name of a class, people need to brush the sand out and quit getting butt hurt over everything. People are starting to see stolen valor like a bad case of the 6th sense. My MOS was 14R. Bradley Linebacker, front line air defense. Do i need to serve in a major war that has front lines to be able to claim that MOS? Lots of major shit out in the real world to worry about, I suggest we drop some of this minor shit and get on with it.
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SSG Javier Antonsanti
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Will everyone just get over yourselves, over the whole "combat" thing. I don't recall anyone in the late 80's and through must of the 90's getting butt hurt over titles.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
SGT Edward Wilcox
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Neither do I, with the exception of my platoon sergeant. He was the only medic I knew for the first 10 years of my enlistment that had earned a CMB.
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Here's my question why do Flight Medics who actively participated in combat do not receive CMB but CAB instead and do you still call them healthcare specialists or simply flight medics? Can they put down on resume Combat Medic?
MSgt P H.
MSgt P H.
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To a Civilian the distinction is NOTHING. Point being, to them the distinction is no different, you worked as a "combat medic". Did you NOT take care of Soldiers in combat or have the potential too? Did you NOT train to take care of Soldiers in combat situation? Did you train to take care of Soldiers in a hospital?
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