Posted on Jul 8, 2016
SrA Rebecca Jaffee
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So last week I was at the chow hall with another girl from my squadron, and we see this SSgt wearing nearly black lipstick across the room. This is very obviously out of regs as makeup is to be conservative and lipstick can not contrast with your skin tone. She was obviously a higher rank than me or the airman I went to chow with, and neither of us said anything even though both of us desperately wanted to. She looked ridiculous. It was so bad that some male airmen at the table next to us noticed it and asked us about the reg. Anyway my question is, is it appropriate to confront a higher rank when they are blatantly disregarding regs?

PS There was a visiting 2 star across the chow hall at the time
PPS Sorry the pictures are so bad. We were far away.
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SCPO Kelly Jernigan
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Absolutely, but have a little tact and mention it quietly (don't shout it out in the chow hall). And just my personal observation.....I would also mention that particular shade does not go well with her skin tone and makes her teeth look big (like a horse).
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TSgt Aerospace Ground Equipment (AGE)
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of course it is...respecfully
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SSgt Air Defense Liaison Element
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An Airman (capital A meaning every one in the Air Force) is allowed to correct any other Airman (again capital A), but as others said, do it tactfully. Do not go around publically shaming people that out rank you.
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SSgt Knowledge Operations Management
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Read the blue book. All Airmen of all tiers have a responsibility to hold eachother accountable to the standards set forth by higher headquarters. Rank plays no role in that. Of course be respectful, but if you are disciplined for it then she can actually get in trouble as that is an IG incident. As an NCO she should set an example, she is not living up to the expectations of her rank.
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Sgt Aviation Supply Specialist
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Everyone in the Military is held to higher standards. Never be afraid to confront someone who is out of regs. Correct tactfully though.
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Cpl Terry Williams
Cpl Terry Williams
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I was out of the Marine Corps for about two years, when I went to pick up family at the San Deigo air port, A new Marine was at the airport sporting in his Charlie's on his way home from boot camp, but had the most God awful New York grease ball necklace on, I went up to the him and started screaming at him, telling him I was gonna rip that guido off his neck and shove it down his wind pipe. He quickly removed the offending jewelry, and apologized profusely,
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CPL Wilfred Roberge
CPL Wilfred Roberge
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Cpl Terry Williams - I used to always correct the messed up ROTC Cadets on my College Campus for not knowing how to where thier uniform and wearing PT's while listening to thier IPOD or walking and talking on a Cell Phone in Uniform, I loved it!!!!!!! I dropped one and made him do push-ups because I had corrected him numerous times, the next time I was going to write him a counceling statement (even though he was outside of my chain of command since he had disregarded regulations and the advice of a veteran and seriving duty qualified soldier) , he tried to "pull rank saying he was a "Cadet geting "E-5 pay" I then said but you are still just a cadet at a college and not duty qualified so until you are duty qualified you are not out ranking me especially when you are doing all inds of jacked up shit in uniform!!!!!"
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CPL Wilfred Roberge
CPL Wilfred Roberge
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wow, I did all kinds of jacked up spelling darn my phone!!!!! Usually I am a stickler for grammar and spelling!!!!!
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CPL Wilfred Roberge
CPL Wilfred Roberge
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I agree, but I loved to confront and correct out of reg ROTC Cadets on my Campus whom had to go to another College's Campus for ROTC so when on our Campus they were pretty much on their own and unaccountable to nobody. I would catch they w/o headgear/covers and instead wearing (we were in Massachusetts) a Red Sox hat, I told the kid/Cadet to remove it because it is better to be wrong and not have your cover than not have your cover AND be wearing a cover which is out of regs. Kid/Cadet tries to pull Rank, I wouldn't have none of that being a Veteran. I also stopped a number of Cadets for walking a talking/texting on a cell in uniform as well as using IPODS in Uniform.
I explained if you are going to lead me you had better learn the standards sooner than later. I eventually drafted a letter to the ROTC Commander/Instructors at other campus about offending students.
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SFC Company Motor Sergeant
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If you see something out of regs and don't correct it the. You just allowed them to set a new standard. Everyone can be corrected. Do it tactfully and make sure you are 100% within regs before approaching them.
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MSG Special Forces Senior Sergeant
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Yes! Be tactful. But don't be surprised if you get blown off or laid in to. Shitbirds like the one pictured do the wrong thing, know it, and think they are above the law.
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MSgt Ground Radar Systems
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Absolutely you correct them. Be respectful dont go screaming at em. Your job is also to correct the standard when you see it is wrong
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TSgt Sylvia Powell
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Yes you should! It does not matter if a SSgt or General. Just be tactful about it.
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SSG Mark Franzen
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I would Have Had to ask If you could talk to Her about her appearance on the side and Make
on the spot correction. Maybe She would listen to you or Not but Don't let PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU SAW SOMETHING AND YOU WERE BEING HONEST TO HER AND LET KNOW THAT SHE WAS WRONG. WHAT IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT AND SOMEONE CORRECTED YOU HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE IT?
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