Posted on Jul 8, 2016
Is it appropriate to confront a higher rank when they are blatantly disregarding regs?
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So last week I was at the chow hall with another girl from my squadron, and we see this SSgt wearing nearly black lipstick across the room. This is very obviously out of regs as makeup is to be conservative and lipstick can not contrast with your skin tone. She was obviously a higher rank than me or the airman I went to chow with, and neither of us said anything even though both of us desperately wanted to. She looked ridiculous. It was so bad that some male airmen at the table next to us noticed it and asked us about the reg. Anyway my question is, is it appropriate to confront a higher rank when they are blatantly disregarding regs?
PS There was a visiting 2 star across the chow hall at the time
PPS Sorry the pictures are so bad. We were far away.
PS There was a visiting 2 star across the chow hall at the time
PPS Sorry the pictures are so bad. We were far away.
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If I was their friend I would have definitely told them. It seemed when I was in decades ago, we things go, unless it would rain down a hurt on our unit. You would would need to know the person, they might be thankful or revengeful
If you are on duty and a SP or etc, at least years ago, if in the line of duty, you are alwasy one ranch higher; remember having to deal with a Major who could hardly walk, that wanted to go to town from Base, by the base bus. He would not listen to me, and get off the bus, just being a Airmen First Class, so called the SP Command Center and the Sq commander came out and almost literally pulled him off the bus by his ears and put him into his car and took him away.
If you are on duty and a SP or etc, at least years ago, if in the line of duty, you are alwasy one ranch higher; remember having to deal with a Major who could hardly walk, that wanted to go to town from Base, by the base bus. He would not listen to me, and get off the bus, just being a Airmen First Class, so called the SP Command Center and the Sq commander came out and almost literally pulled him off the bus by his ears and put him into his car and took him away.
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It's kind of a yes and no question while it isn't against regulations to correct someone higher rank than you it's very much a double edged sword because depending on who is there and how fragile that SNCO's ego is you could still get an add chewing which is why most people are too afraid to correct higher ups because at the end of the day no one wants to be publicly humiliated.
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Praise in public and criticize in private. Pull them aside, state your case (starting with "I mean no disrespect..." and walk away. A mature, senior-ranking member will usually thank you for the "polite dressing down" and take it to heart. Of course it could blow up...in that case, answer questions about your name, unit, etc. but don't get into a shouting match and beat a hasty retreat.
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Wow, she is so out of regs! Best thing to do, is casually walk up to her, ask her an unrelated question and then tell her (nice and respectful) if she knows she's out of regs with that lipstick. If she pulls the "rank card", note her name, rank and what squadron she is from. I have noticed now, that patches on the OCP uniform is limited. So maybe the officers acompanying that two star might make a point to her. ☺
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The proper way to handle this situation has always been this. And I am surprised nobody has mentioned it, if you are a senior person to you out of regs, you are to find a higher ranking person to the the person out of regs, explain the situation to them, and let them handle it. Even though this person is out of regs, it is not your place to confront them.You do not have the authority to do this.And this can lead to a very bad situation the next time You confront this person.Time
So find a higher ranking person in the area, and let them handle it.
So find a higher ranking person in the area, and let them handle it.
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This made the staff sgt. look ridiculous and that will bring it’s own retribution in embarrassment
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Yes it is appropriate to do so. Rank doesn’t allow for disregarding the AFI. The appropriate approach would be Ma’am can I speak to you for a second? Walk away from everyone else and ask her if she knew her lipstick was outside what’s allowed in the AFI. Someone in her chain should’ve caught it long before you but they failed so it’s good you’re willing to step up.
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