Posted on Jul 8, 2016
SrA Rebecca Jaffee
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So last week I was at the chow hall with another girl from my squadron, and we see this SSgt wearing nearly black lipstick across the room. This is very obviously out of regs as makeup is to be conservative and lipstick can not contrast with your skin tone. She was obviously a higher rank than me or the airman I went to chow with, and neither of us said anything even though both of us desperately wanted to. She looked ridiculous. It was so bad that some male airmen at the table next to us noticed it and asked us about the reg. Anyway my question is, is it appropriate to confront a higher rank when they are blatantly disregarding regs?

PS There was a visiting 2 star across the chow hall at the time
PPS Sorry the pictures are so bad. We were far away.
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
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Wear i agree with all of the answers I have seen so far, you really need to choose your battles. Using the chair of command, is always the safe answer. In this case, with a visiting General, I can guarantee there will be plenty of senior NCO's around, kissing stars, and ensuring order. Find one (preferably a female), give a nudge, point in the right direction. I guarantee said SSG will be pulled aside and corrected and the black lipstick will be removed. None of them want the General to see a jacked up NCO in their command.
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SGT Kenneth Rand
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Be tactful and even if they don't treat themselves appropriate to their own rank doesn't mean you should do the same. Treat them according to the rank. I've corrected a Major General and got a coin for when I was a PFC is name and army tape were on opposite. It's a matter of letting them know nicely if they continue to do it report them to the next higher up the chain or if they get in your face over it. I hated piss poor appearance in my Platoon it wasn't tolerated.
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SSG Jeremy Clark
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Hell at Ft. Bragg when I was there if you didn't tactfully correct someone even of superior rank with general power of authority and the Post Commander saw it he'd have both of your behinds. His biggest pet peeve was LTs walking and talking on cell phones and even a PVT was expected to make a tactful correction.
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SGT Charles Bartell
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Kind of like the SGM that runs al over post looking for people to jack up. But at the same time they would be smoking and walking, button's undone, Head gear jacked up, Stuff hanging out of their pockets.
The funny thing is most of them where Guard and Reserve types on power trips.
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SPC Byron Skinner
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Byron Skiinner. Unless you are a member of an organization such as Military Police or working for a commander who has specifically assigned you with the task of making sure female enlisted personal meet specific grooming protocol, let it be. If there is an issue Im sure a two star will notice and detail somebody to correct it, or as in most cases really doesn’t give a shit anyway. Also even though you didn’t mention race, I would just guess that race is a factor here
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PO2 Carl Robinson
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That would be up to the person and who they were confronting. Most people who have rank above yours, depending on disposition, may not listen to you. And then if you go to a superior, they may label you a trouble maker. It is up to someone over that person to make the corrections and if they aren't available to make the correction, and expect everyone to do their work, sometimes it can be a no win situation. I was in Okinawa in 1984 and we were do a field test on putting up a Hospital for operation in 72 hours. A storm came up and I got hit by lightning. I had to walk to the dispensary to be evaluated. I ended up with post concussion syndrome, but then I walked back because the Marines had their ambulances and trucks lined up. The inspection started and the commandant of the Marine Corps PX Kelly looked at me and said I looked like hell. My Lt. told him I got hit by lightning, he said, "Jesus Christ son, are you ok?" I said I had a headache and told him about the area I was covering. Every physician that I worked with appreciated my work. I got a commendation for my work on this field exercise as I was being tested for advancement in rank. Most of the officers in the battalion liked that I was teaching the other corpsmen. One officer, I didn't have much respect for because he tried to make everyone's time on Okinawa under him, miserable.
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SSG James Mielke
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As the Sergeant Major said; "Absolutely, just use tact."
Also, have your own ducks in a row before you call her out on it. Not just you not wearing out-of-Reg make-up, but across the board. Never correct someone if your shit is not squared away.
It also does not hurt to know exactly which part of the Reg is being violated, as in Reg#, page, chapter, section, paragraph, etc. because an NCO that is willing to flaunt the Regs is more than likely going to argue about you calling them out on it.
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PO3 Dale Olson
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Dam straight.... We had a security check in Pearl Habor and the Capt had a "No ID - No Wine" in the POD. I was standing the Quarter watch and I challenged everyone including officers. The OD, usually an Ensign or maybe LtJg git nervous everytime I did it. But, I had the 45 side arm and OD had nothing.
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PO1 John Williams
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As ship's "Secretary," I was expected to keep the officers and chiefs up to date on reg changes. I was expected to know the regs. If I had a situation like this, I would make sure that I would catch her out of ear shot of anyone and say something like, "Serg, I was just keeping up on the regs. Why don't you drop by the Ship's Office and let me know how we should remind our female (solders/sailor/airmen) staff on the dress regs."
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SSG David Kaelin
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Yes

Be tactful

Know the REG/Policy

But be aware always that there will always be petty people and be prepared for that.

A good way to do it is to ask that person a question about the Reg or Policy on the infraction that you've observed.
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