Posted on Mar 20, 2018
Is it illegal to possess an official Army Jump Manifest?
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I was told it was illegal to have one in your possession after you leave the Army by a retired Army MSG. Is that true and if so.......why is that? Just curious. I don't have one (story behind the question not really relevant to the question).
XVIII ABN Corps
Paratrooper
Infantry
Posted 8 y ago
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If its an older jump manifest that lists SSNs of the jumpers it could be considered a violation of the Privacy Act. So in a way the MSG might be right. While its common to hold on to a jump manifest to prove number of jumps as safety or jumpmaster for admin purposes later, it would be best to mask or cover other soldiers private info.
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I just saw this and had to laugh very hard, I have a couple of actual generated manifest, Jumpmaster copies not record copies, never heard of that BS, and that is BS of the smelly type. The SSN worry is a real concern but easy to fix, but if that was a big issue the army would have to stop doing mass orders for EIB's, CIB's etc since the SSN is on those mass orders. I have an AttaBoy book with numerous SSN's in them from my orders. If you see this MSG again tell him to cite the reg/law that makes it illegal. I think I will just sit back with a beer and await the Govt SWAT team rolling up on me for 30 year old manifest :)
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1SG Dennis Hicks
I still have my pay vouchers for when I made $397.50 + $55 jump pay a month as a barracks rat. you never know :)
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1SG Dennis Hicks
SFC Christopher Learned - Why yes you young whipper snapper I have :), But the MSG that was spouting "It's Illegal" was talking about when they did put PID on documents. He made ups some bullshit about being illegal to cover not knowing what he was talking about. When they stopped putting PID on documents they also put out Personal Identifying Information policies and guidance. Now pardon me while I walk my woolly mammoth, at least that's what the wife calls it, damn I think I just violated a few policies and regulations whit the double entendre, doing push ups now.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025 - CSM officially recorded 180, personal jump log is 253 mt last jump was out of a jar head rotary wing on Coyle Air attack filed in NJ. Keep in mind I was a barracks rat that lived to jump so I spent man a Friday night on the DZ drinking the night before a Sat fun jump event. My last unit an ABN Reserve Battalion presented me with a centurion award after I retired.I am now paying for those jumps every cold morning :) My youngest hopes to pin on mt fathers silver wings and maybe down the line my Master wings.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
Would you like to by a manifest, I know a guy who knows a guy that can get you one for some Benjamins. But you can't tell that MSG or he will narc me out :)
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SPC Erich Guenther
1SG Dennis Hicks - Yeah my fault for being so gullible I guess. Should have asked you in the first place......never thought of it though.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
SPC Erich Guenther - Just busting balls, a mans got to have a hobby when he retires :) Wait who am I kidding I have always busted balls :)
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SPC Erich Guenther
1SG Dennis Hicks - I have 10 more years to go myself but I've go a real neat job now where I can set my hours and work 85% of the time from home. They have a program where you can buy into their full pension (which of course I am going to do....cha-ching). :) It's a new benefit for folks with less than 20 years of service and I really hope that benefit spreads to other companies.
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About the same as mission documents from Iraq. I checked with S2, they said to redact SSN then could be used for historical purposes.
About the same type of deal as I see it.
About the same type of deal as I see it.
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When I was in all orders, manifest, and the like included SSN. I have a file cabinet in my basement loaded with old travel manifest. When I retired my old military files ended up there. From time to time I am contacted by some of my old soldiers who are in need of a page with their info on an order. Stuff from Desert Storm, authorizing combat patch. Orders from our tour in Bosnia as part of SFOR. That sort of thing. An honorable man will not violate a brothers trust. So all that info will stay there in my files until I reach the 20th anniversary of my retirement. By then all of my old soldiers will be past the years of needing anything I might have. I'll burn it.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
I understand that, I still had copies of assignment orders from Viet Nam and did share that with another man who was also on those orders. The orders were for an in Country PCS where 20 of us were loaded on a C130 including Him and Me. When I entered the USAF My recruiter told Me not to thrown any papers away, You might need them again some day to verify information as an example. He was right, I done that Myself for awards not yet on My Military Personnel record and it was corrected and I was issued the medals, ribbons and it was documented. Safeguard the records but don't destroy them and even for Your survivors keep them, You never know they might even need them.
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I don’t know about illegal. I have a copy in my IPERMS. For some reason they put my jump records to include a manifest from pathfinder school under “flight records.” I still have the originals in a box somewhere.
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Nah I’ve got copies I needed to to turn in for credit. Pretty sure nowhere on the manifest does it say “destroy when you retire”
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There is nothing illegal about keeping those in Your possession but like any other document don't share information on others listed on the document such as SSAN. i wouldn't dispose of the paperwork, keep it, it part of Your own History and if You weren't entitled to have it it would not have been given to You in the first place. I doubt You become less trustworthy to look after the information after retiring than while You were still in uniform and would still safeguard the information on other people contained on that manifest. The MSgt is mistaken !
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