Posted on Jun 7, 2020
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If it is then please provide specific reason
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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It's not inappropriate. Rare. But not inappropriate. And, I would like to add that if a SGT is getting dropped....they done f*cked up A-A-Ron
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SFC Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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I always ensure I correct my NCOs away from their soldiers, you never want to do anything that will erode that leaders power base. I guess if would be similar to 1SG ripping you a new one in front of your platoon.
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No it’s not so long as he is doing it away from the junior soldiers NCO’S should deal with NCO’S in private so that you don’t take away there power base in front of there soldiers there is a time and a place
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I understand. Just seems very odd to make an nco do that since that’s common of course for SPC-and below
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SSG (Join to see) - kinda like a 1LT making a 2LT stand at attention?
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Is it inappropriate for a SSG to put a SGT in the front leaning rest?
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Yes. Praise in public, correct in private. Every senior enlisted I had as an infantry squad leader always corrected in private. That is professionalism. We also corrected individual squad members in private. Now, an entire squad or platoon is a different matter!

COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen F. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen SPC Woody Bullard CPL Dave Hoover CW5 Jack Cardwell Lt Col Charlie Brown Col Carl Whicker SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SPC Margaret Higgins Maj Marty Hogan SGT Jim Arnold Maj William W. 'Bill' Price SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell LTC Wayne Brandon PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SPC Douglas Bolton PVT Mark Zehner
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SPC Douglas Bolton
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Totally agree.
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SFC James Welch
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Not in my view. There are other avenues of discipline to use that are more appropriate for a Junior NCO!
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SFC James Welch
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I meant to say he should not. I’m trying to write and drink coffee at the same time. When you are 80 you need to ease up on the multitasking
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SFC James Welch - Ease up on that coffee, Jim!!!
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SFC James Welch
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SGT (Join to see) Remember the stuff we drank in the field?
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SSG Jimmy Cernich
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I don't think it's appropriate.If the NCO needs corrective action do it verbally away from subordinates.If the NCO has an habitual problem correct them verbally and on paper.NCO's are the back bone of our military.
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SFC(P) John McLaughlin
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Anytime I dropped a soldier for push-ups, I dropped with that soldier and matched them push-up for push-up. Yes I have done that to SGTs as well. What I never did was do this in front of others. Always took them aside, such as between tanks in the motor pool. Never did it out of anger, but used it as a tool for learning.
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Roger but like , what circumstance exactly or just anytime they f up?
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SFC(P) John McLaughlin
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Not every situation where they f-up. Depends on the circumstances. SSG (Join to see)
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SFC(P) John McLaughlin
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An example is attitude. Everybody just has that day where they get an attitude. That attitude can get in the way of accomplishing the duties for the day. Frustration sets in. . I pull that soldier aside and order him to drop. As I stated before, I drop with them. Push-ups are conducted on my cadence. Slow and steady. The purpose is to bring that soldier back to his normal self. I’d tell him/ her to go walk off for about 15 minutes of reflection. They come back and if they are willing to talk, we’ll talk. Introducing Interpersonal Communication. My job as an Sr. Enlisted is the health and welfare. It’s my SSGs and SGTs duties to ensure the jobs are done. It’s hard to define the exact circumstances, because not every circumstance gets the same attention. SSG (Join to see)
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It’s a matter of the tools in your tool box. When I was a tabbed SPEC4 and a SGT my answer for everything and everyone was burpees and pushups. But then I realized that if I’m smoking my junior leaders that my junior enlisted wouldn’t respect them. So then I started talking to my junior leaders, teaching them when I could, challenging them when that failed, or just shaming them into conformity when all else failed. I used whatever tool it took to teach them. If it takes pushups because that SGT still thinks like a SPC then that’s what it takes.

I remember once being corrected by a 1SG as a new SSG. I was in Iraq and the radio person in the TOC had smarted off to me over the radio as I was returning from a patrol and from 8 days out in sector. So, my mood was already pretty foul. I caught him returning from the chow hall and in the evening and starting smoking him on the sidewalk. A 1SG walking by saw me and said, “Come here, SSG”. Then he said, if you’re going to smoke him take him to the side of the building where people aren’t watching.


The point is that a) I was still thinking like a SGT and not a SSG and b) these things need to be conducted in private away from others. I myself only learned through sweat and blood for years. But, it should be conducted away from the junior enlisted so as not to undermine the authority of the NCO Corps. Even if we aren’t always in agreement, we must always show that our juniors have our support and they speak with our voice, just as we speak with the commanders voice.
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If the situation has escalated to the point where you need to put a SGT in front leaning rest, you have failed as a SSG.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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Never in front of Junior enlisted. Corrective action and Discipline of NCOs should occur, but away from Soldiers.
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