Posted on Mar 17, 2016
Is it okay to wear the deployment OCP when you've never been deployed?
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I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc. he approached me for work and as we were talking he brought up how things worked at his last unit, and I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so. Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
Deployment
OCP
DA Pam 670-1
Uniforms
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Perhaps this is a question in which you should have asked the SGT right then and there. He/ she could have probably educated you on the spot. That is what NCO's are for; don't be afraid to ask in person.
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SPC Harvey Pooka Ski
Btw some of nco are acting on here I wouldn't ask them shit I'd Jack something up then tell sgm you said I could God bunch of blue falcon nco to a off question... Them stripes make you young leaders not the right not to be questioned why you do something
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Wow, I can't believe some of the response s from NCOs on this post. The young PFC just asked a question and by the response of some of you, I see why jr enlisted Soldiers something don't got to their NCO for answers. They rather go around not knowing or ask their peers who know just as much as them...or less, ijs...
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1SG (Join to see)
Some of the shit responses on here are way off base... then I get into the subcomments and it really goes off the rails.
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He just asked people to clarify what the Sergeant was doing. With all do respect, there's no need to be unprofessional by saying PFC Morter's opinion "doesn't mean shit". In fact, he didn't even input his opinion he just asked to clarify whether or not the NCO could wear the deployment OCP'S. I can understand if he called out his NCO directly by name to correct him but PFC Morter did not. The whole reason RallyPoint is here is for Soldiers, Seamen, Marines and Airman can discuss various topics in a professional manner.
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SGT (Join to see)
But to answer the original question yes, the Sergeant is well within AR670-1 to wear that particular uniform.
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this is for TSGT kerry hardy
I will explain this very simply and by the sentence
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pfc:I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc
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deployment OCP: does not exist, it was issued to deploying units first
SGM Erik Marquez: is it authorized for wear......yes
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PFC: I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so.
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SGM Erik Marquez: is it authorized for wear......yes
is it won correctly....yes
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PFC:Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
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SGM Erik Marquez: is it authorized for wear......yes
is it won correctly....yes
find something worth you time to fix, improve, train
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the last line says it all....from a high rank to a low rank.....yes it is ok to wear, quit whining about whether someone deployed or not and is authorized to wear something or isnt
go do some really useful training that you desperately need
how could you not see that the simple flow chart said this...hello
I will explain this very simply and by the sentence
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pfc:I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc
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deployment OCP: does not exist, it was issued to deploying units first
SGM Erik Marquez: is it authorized for wear......yes
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PFC: I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so.
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SGM Erik Marquez: is it authorized for wear......yes
is it won correctly....yes
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PFC:Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
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SGM Erik Marquez: is it authorized for wear......yes
is it won correctly....yes
find something worth you time to fix, improve, train
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the last line says it all....from a high rank to a low rank.....yes it is ok to wear, quit whining about whether someone deployed or not and is authorized to wear something or isnt
go do some really useful training that you desperately need
how could you not see that the simple flow chart said this...hello
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Most of these responses makes me want to drop this website. This is not leading the way. All Soldier are entitled to outstanding leadership and this is not it. This will be last post and good job for who those who tried to teach this young Soldier.
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1SG (Join to see)
Don't give up on RP. Most of the time it is great for getting constructive answers. Somewhere it took a left turn and the sharks smelled blood. I imagine the good private read very few of these responses, a the direct answer was in several of them, without the dumbass snark.
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FYI, that pattern of uniform used to be called 'OCP', which is now called 'OEF-CP' or the trade name for the camouflage pattern is MultiCam(Multi-Cam). All three uniforms are Army Combat Uniforms, but usually the original ACU is referred to as such, while the later variants are referred to by their camouflage patterns.
Getting back to your question, it's perfectly fine to wear that uniform, as it is not a deployment award, skill badge, or sort of 'reward' for deployment.
Now as to how he got the uniform, he may have been in a unit that was about to deploy from 2011-present, but due to extenuating circumstances, he did not deploy.
Does that answer your question?
Getting back to your question, it's perfectly fine to wear that uniform, as it is not a deployment award, skill badge, or sort of 'reward' for deployment.
Now as to how he got the uniform, he may have been in a unit that was about to deploy from 2011-present, but due to extenuating circumstances, he did not deploy.
Does that answer your question?
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I hate to be snarky because it's unbecoming of an NCO but my God Private, try doing an ounce of research on your own. The Army hides this type of information in things like Army Regulations, DA Pam's, ALARACT and MILPER messages. I understand you don't know what you don't know but I'd bet you can roll the hell out of some sleeves.
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SPC Darren Coffenberry
You being a DS, your first answer should have been to cite the AR670-1 or at least provide a copy to the troop. The mentality starts with you, your the teachers for the future soldiers. To tell a soldier to research when it is your responsibility as not only an NCO but a DS to make sure they understand and have the tools they need to succeed.
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As long as it is not in violation of AR 670-1, then Soldiers are entitled to wear whichever uniform they feel like wearing. As for the Deployment uniforms, they were only issued to those that were deployed but you can go buy a set at your local surplus store if you want to wear them.
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Stupid Navy Sailor question: do you Soldiers not get "announcements" about new uniforms, what they look like, who can wear them and when? In the Navy we'd get an "all hands" announcement showing the new uniform in color, male and female derivatives of it and when it can be utilized. Is the Navy the only branch that does this?
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PO2 Joseph Lucas
I'm with you. So glad I was in the Navy. Army seems too complicated. No wonder they just call the Navy and Marines when they actually want to get something done.
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MSG Reid Stone
SSG (Join to see) - There are announcements! Were when I was AD in the '70's and mobed in early 2000's. Usually sent to BN/CO and posted by CSM's and 1SG's on bulletin boards. Maybe he should read the company bulletin board. Hopefully he's looking at the training schedule!
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SSG (Join to see)
MSG Reid Stone - my "nope" was in response to the question asking if the Navy is the only service that pushes out notifications. Nope, *all* of the services push out notices, and are generally quite noisy about it.
I'll bet this kid knew to roll his sleeves up the day after *that* was promulgated, though. ;-)
I'll bet this kid knew to roll his sleeves up the day after *that* was promulgated, though. ;-)
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1SG (Join to see)
Yes we do, PO3 Donald Murphy . They are called ALARACT (All Army Activities) messages. They are generally posted to command bulletin boards. One like this governing uniforms get the widest distribution.
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