Posted on Jun 5, 2017
SSG Paul Carrier
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Okay! Finally found it!
The retired service member does qualify for this award. How one goes about putting him in for it I do not know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Defense_Medal_for_Valor
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SSG Paul Carrier
SSG Paul Carrier
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Thank you !
I'll do some more digging to see if I can find the how.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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I was army so I looked up my services regulation. So, AR 600-8-22, Sect. 3-3, Personnel Eligability, this section actually does not have anything that specifically pertains to retired service members. It does state that certain awards may be given to civilians if signed off by the Secretary of the Army, however these awards are for civilians serving in a combat zone.

I do believe that there are civilian awards that can be issued in this case. I will look them up and get that info to you.
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He could be given a civilian award, but not the Soldier's medal, because he was not on active duty when this happened. And I doubt they would retroactively recall him posthumously for this....
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Is it possible to nominate a retired service member for an award for actions as a retiree?
SSG Psyop Instructor
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I guess it depends on the Award. Can you be more specific?
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SSG Paul Carrier
SSG Paul Carrier
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The incident in Portland Oregon where a retired Army member was killed while intervening to protect two women on a bus.
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SSG Psyop Instructor
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What award was he given?
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SSG Paul Carrier
SSG Paul Carrier
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The incident where he was killed was just two weeks ago.
No awards have been given, I was curious if a federal award could be presented.
The question came up in the Veterans group at my civilian job
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LTC William Gilmore
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There is also a civilian equivalent of the Purple Heart he may be qualified to receive.
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SGT Mathew Husen
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While on Extra Duty
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SGT Mathew Husen
SGT Mathew Husen
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Sorry i posted based on what the post said on facebook lol
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Edited 8 y ago
Remember, retiree's are still service members, subject to the UCMJ. They aren't civilians. I'm sure it would be complicated, but they're still eligible for military awards.

Approval authority is the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC), 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138–1002. Approval authority for Soldiers who retired or were discharged after 1 October 2002 is Commander, U.S. Army Human Resources Command, Awards and Decorations Branch (AHRC–PDP–A), 1600 Spearhead Division Avenue, Fort Knox, KY 40122–5408.
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SSG Paul Carrier
SSG Paul Carrier
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Good point, I have someone at NGB looking into this for us as well.
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