Posted on Jan 2, 2017
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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The Young Beat themselves up prodded by Honor Courage Commitment Team Family TRUST. Arm Chair Chicken-hawk Owners Crowds Cheer. In house Medical Professional Ethical Conflicts stymie TBI PTSD diagnosis etc. Owners use forget player. The Crowd forgets. Post Service Support is Self Protective Serving Admin heavy mismanaged w/ loopholes confusing injured VET. A few TV "Pros" glamorize the game?
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SPC Byron Skinner
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Sp4 Byron Skinner. The question is comparing the Army to a game played by millionaires is out of line. The injuries occurred in combat are much more serious there is no possible injury in football that compares to being on a few feet away for an incoming 82mm mortar round or with in a meter of an exploding hand gernade. Event when seat occurs on an NFL playing field it is not the bloody gruesome deaths of friends that a soldier or marine has to put in a body bag. Th post service medical care of Veterans both combat and non combat is a sham. The VA healthcare system long ago, perhaps at the end of General Omar Bradley's term as head of the VA deserted the Veteran and became the world leading trainer of new doctors and healthcare professionals. Veterans are disposable gunny pigs for recent Medical School graduates to learn their craft and the sell the crafted services in a civilian healthcare market that richly rewards them. Few ever go back and do pro-bono care for Veterans. Veterans are OK to do an oops on, but when money is involved, wee you can finish out this post as you like.
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SPC Sheila Lewis
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No.
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SPC Byron Skinner
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Sp4 Byron Skinner. No Way. I'm not say that a few of the players in the NFL could do a Combat Arms BCT and then Infantry AIT Thats just the start if you want a career you have to add Ranger School and Special Qualifications Course. Then a couple of Combat Tours in Afghanistan. That is before you even get to throw or catch a football.
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Pat McCracken
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I don't feel a comparison of the two can even be made, except that both wear a uniform. I would place military service far higher than an NFL player. NFL players don't risk their lives every day for this country, or leave their families for months at a time to be deployed to a foreign enemy zone where living conditions are less than great, or get shot at or bombed daily. Heck, many NFL players don't even stand in respect of the flag, but take a knee and say it's respectful. That's a bunch of bull. Military service should never be compared to NFL players.....
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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Will you please let me know what this means in interpretation?

DOD 6055.5-M 1998
OCCUPATIONAL MEDICAL SERVICE MANUAL
C2. CHAPTER 2
MEDICAL SURVEILLANCE FOR OSHA-REGULATED EXPOSURES
C2.1. INTRODUCTION
C2.1.1. History
C2.1.1.1. With the establishment of OSHA in 1970, the Federal Government
began to mandate the basic elements of medical surveillance for a number of chemical
and physical stressors in the workplace. Beginning in the early 1970s, the list has now
grown to more than 20 individually regulated stressors. Two Executive Orders (E.O.)
defined the relationship of OSHA regulations to the Department of Defense
workforce. E.O. 11807 (1974) placed Federal employees under the Occupational
Health and Safety Act (reference (k)). This Order was later revoked by E.O. 12196
(1980) (reference (l)) that exempted active duty military personnel and uniquely military
equipment, systems, and operations. Many of the initial OSHA regulations (reference
(k)) are for carcinogens that are rarely found in the Department of Defense workplaces
today.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
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Yep. have you seen the movie "Concussion"? There is a lot of money involved in both occupations, cognitive dissonance as well as trauma for some.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
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and don't forget the machismo.
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay - That is exactly the movie about TBI and the willful in house financed NFL Professional Medical staffs attempts to not acknowledge the reality of TBi when 300 lb men hit each other at high rates of speed. If you hear those guys talk who are not in the game any longer, their bodies are breaking down in the 40s and 50s. Beyond the money these NFL Players are human and so are us Military Human. I see such a direct reality that there is an attempt by Medical Professionals not to acknowledge reality depending on who is financing the reality. I know there are good doctors out there. But I remember in grade school when the teacher said why and what do you want to be when you grow up a lot of kids would say Doctor because..wait a minute. they will make a lot of money...

and it is this money of care that I am looking at.

Serving my country was not based on making a lot of money for the pain physical or mental associated.

I just wonder how these two type of humans exist on the same planet??

1 is for the money first
1 is for the ethics of right and wrong before money first..
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PO3 Aaron Hassay
PO3 Aaron Hassay
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Sgt,

Take a look at this and let me know what you think it means. Thanks

DOD 6055.5-M 1998
OCCUPATIONAL MEDICAL SERVICE MANUAL
C2. CHAPTER 2
MEDICAL SURVEILLANCE FOR OSHA-REGULATED EXPOSURES
C2.1. INTRODUCTION
C2.1.1. History
C2.1.1.1. With the establishment of OSHA in 1970, the Federal Government
began to mandate the basic elements of medical surveillance for a number of chemical
and physical stressors in the workplace. Beginning in the early 1970s, the list has now
grown to more than 20 individually regulated stressors. Two Executive Orders (E.O.)
defined the relationship of OSHA regulations to the Department of Defense
workforce. E.O. 11807 (1974) placed Federal employees under the Occupational
Health and Safety Act (reference (k)). This Order was later revoked by E.O. 12196
(1980) (reference (l)) that exempted active duty military personnel and uniquely military
equipment, systems, and operations. Many of the initial OSHA regulations (reference
(k)) are for carcinogens that are rarely found in the Department of Defense workplaces
today.
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Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay
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PO3 Aaron Hassay - The material you cited i found to be dated May 2007. That is so old in light of the brain research being done now.
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