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So when ever the CAPT spends most of the day cleaning the house and then goes to bed, and I’m trying to relax and sleep from a stressful day of watching football, she sounds like a freight train. So they are sending her for a sleep study. I hear everyone who walks in the door comes out with a CPAP machine. What’s up with that?
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Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Retirement
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It can't be over diagnosed. Its based on an objective, quantified set testing and diagnostic standard, vs a subjective, diagnosis of exclusion. Lung capacity can't be faked. Gotta be from burn pits.
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The illness is not in itself over diagnosed. I guarantee that many people’s lives are improved by the use of a CPAP. It is a career ender for more than just pilots, for the most part Soldiers and Marines are non-deployable because of it. Who would gain anything by faking the symptoms and getting a physician to prescribe the system is a wonder.
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SSG Zia Williams (Knapp)
Funny that you would bring that up about it being a career ender.. I have severe sleep apnea, over 21 years Army and I claimed my sleep apnea, they asked why I didn't say anything while I was in, I said because I didn't want to get kicked out, now that kicked me in the ass.. Although, I said something the month before I retired, and they said I was just saying something. Go figure, I just after 21 years, 2 deployments to Iraq (with burn pits) and I just happen to get it after getting out..seriously! I got denied, then appealed, got denied again, now it is with the civilian appeal.. I have been waiting since 2012. Seriously, I hate having sleep apnea, hate wearing the mask, I have tried all different types of masks, I have ones that are for the nose, they hurt, get night sweats so then its uncomfortable, I hear it at night so I have to have a fan on, so anyone that says is it legit, yes it is, and for the ones of us that have to use the CPAP, it sucks! Just wanted to put in my two cents. Thanks.
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PO1 Mary Vermont
I will never wear one of thise things. A torture device.and I simply do not trust doctors.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
PO1 Mary Vermont All I can tell you is their are multiple variations of the mask, one will be comfortable, and they allow you to change throughout. I recommend you read the issues associated with the disease. If you are married, have children and friend who love you, you may be robbing them of valuable time.
Why would the VA push this expensive piece of equipment, when they could simply tell you that a little snoring is no. If deal. Your choice.
Why would the VA push this expensive piece of equipment, when they could simply tell you that a little snoring is no. If deal. Your choice.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
PO1 Mary Vermont Your health your call. I will tell that folks get extremely ill because they hat doctors. They usually don't know why. I wish you continued good health.
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Be careful with that because I think it is a racket as well. It's on average $5,000 for a sleep study, and the best part for the medical industry is that one sleep study is not good for life. You need to have a sleep study done before you can get a prescription for the CPAP. Per the medical standards of the CPAP as I was told by my Doctor, you need a new sleep study each time you drop or gain 20-30 lbs., which is another $5,000. I opted to lose weight instead of the CPAP or sleep study. Doctor stated since that worked for my Father..........weight loss might work for me as well and he gave it his OK. If it doesn't work I'll go ahead with the sleep study but will still look for an alternative for the CPAP...........maybe surgery next to prevent the obstruction in the first place.
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SFC Jim Ruether
I went and had my nose job done in the interest of medical science and the snoring was relieved somewhat but my wife complained that I breathed to loud. I told her to just place the pillow over my face and lay on top of it till I quit kicking and that should take care of it. We slept in separate bedrooms for awhile and now we sleep in separate houses. Problem solved I guess?
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MSG Thomas Currie
It's only $5000 if you are paying for it -- without insurance.
It's free if the VA is doing it.
It's around $100-200 copay with most insurance (then a similar or higher copay for the CPAP machine and supplies).
It's free if the VA is doing it.
It's around $100-200 copay with most insurance (then a similar or higher copay for the CPAP machine and supplies).
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I don't think sleep apnea is over diagnosed. I would point out that only people who show distinct signs of sleep apnea are ever tested, so it's not surprising that most people who are tested are found to have it.
One possible problem is that the diagnosis is pretty much YES or NO (with almost everyone who is tested being a YES as already noted). There is essentially no way for a doctor to say "You have a little bit of sleep apnea."
Another possible problem is that there are very limited treatments available for sleep apnea. Pretty much the only non-surgical treatment is positive airway pressure, which means blowing air into your nose or nose and mouth to force the throat open to push air into the lungs. So, yes, pretty much "everyone who walks in the door comes out with a CPAP machine."
Overall, there are probably more people who have sleep apnea who are undiagnosed simply because they have never been tested.
Be sure she puts in her VA disability paperwork.
One possible problem is that the diagnosis is pretty much YES or NO (with almost everyone who is tested being a YES as already noted). There is essentially no way for a doctor to say "You have a little bit of sleep apnea."
Another possible problem is that there are very limited treatments available for sleep apnea. Pretty much the only non-surgical treatment is positive airway pressure, which means blowing air into your nose or nose and mouth to force the throat open to push air into the lungs. So, yes, pretty much "everyone who walks in the door comes out with a CPAP machine."
Overall, there are probably more people who have sleep apnea who are undiagnosed simply because they have never been tested.
Be sure she puts in her VA disability paperwork.
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Well, of course they do and they try to scare you into it. My advice is to look into options.
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Just like hyper-activity and all the children they have put on drugs because of it
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1SG John Millan
ADHD is a subjective diagnosis. Airway and pulmonary ailments are based in objective, definitive test standards.
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Well, my experience is more with people leaving the service and picking up that CPAP machine with VA disability.
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MSG Thomas Currie
Which raises the point that service members approaching retirement need to go on sick call for snoring so that it is in their service medical records -- without any in-service record of the problem the VA will claim it is "not service connected" but if the service medical records show treatment for a sleep disorder that supports it being service connected.
In all seriousness, there are many conditions that long-time service members take as just being part of life, such as foot/leg/knee and back pain that we know the military won't do anything about, but when those problems continue and worsen later in life the VA relies on the fact that "you didn't have that problem while in the service" to prove it isn't service connected.
In all seriousness, there are many conditions that long-time service members take as just being part of life, such as foot/leg/knee and back pain that we know the military won't do anything about, but when those problems continue and worsen later in life the VA relies on the fact that "you didn't have that problem while in the service" to prove it isn't service connected.
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