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Why is it that every time some mentally defective person goes into a school or movie theatre or any other public place (which is 9/10 times a gun free zone) and shoots up the joint, the NRA gets blamed? Are people actually so ignorant to think that the person who committed the atrocity was a card carrying member of the NRA? Or is this just a cop-out by the low information voter crowd who likes to blame a tool and not their own failed gun free zone policies? So, what say you RP?
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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!! But we must blame NRA because NRA is slaughtering us politically !! lol
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SPC Robert Bobo
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Rediculus, no way , I've been a member since the 80's and NRA has always been about education and our rights as gun owners
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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The NRA is being treated as a boogyman, just like the ACLU is treated as a boogyman.

They're an easy target because they're large and being large they have money and history.

However, let's look at the Math.

Violence in the US is DOWN. "Firearms Related" Violence in the US is DOWN.

MOST Mass Shootings are "gang related" and are a socio-economic issue exacerbated by population density (Aka Inner City).

There are 12,000~ Firearm homicides a year, with about half of those being "gang related." Only 5%~ involve longguns (Rifles or Shotguns).

People have been trying to "ban" or "regulate" the WRONG $*%&%( things, and the NRA as a Lobbying Organization has been absolutely correct to call them on that fact.

I don't agree with them on everything. Far from it. However, the Gun Control Movement has historically been using "Flawed Argumentation" which they support with BAD MATH, Emotion based argumentation, or which violates the "big rules" (Constitution, specifically 4a, 5a, and 2a in that order).
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Alan K.
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Of course they are, there has to be someone to blame besides those who committed the crime....
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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SFC (Join to see) blaming the person means that an acknowledgement has to be made that wicked people exist in this world. Blaming the tool, an organization, the victims, or some other outside circumstance just makes it easier. For those who don't like guns it is a part of pushing their agenda. Same old argument. If guns kill, silverware causes obesity, and cars cause vehicle accidents. Of course none of those are true. Car accidents are caused mostly by carelessness/bad decisions. Let me send that text at 80 miles an hour down the turnpike, or One more drink won't affect my ability to drive. Same thing with spoons. Spoons don't order a triple chocolate double latte mocapaccino with 50,000 calories in it. The consumer does. Same with chocolate cake, ice cream, soda, McDonalds, Burger King,Wendy's, etc... To blame the spoon or the car is ridiculous. Even a person with murderous intent, if they use a knife, bomb, box cutter, or airplane, the killer is the asshole, not the tool. It is only when that person of murderous intent uses a gun that all of a sudden it is the implement that is an issue. Guess what. It is a lot harder to acquire a plane than it is a firearm. Yet on September 11th 2001 18 Middle Eastern Men managed to take over four planes without firing a single bullet, and they killed over 2,000 people. That doesn't include the people who became sick from inhaling the dust at ground zero. Nobody blamed American Airlines, the FAA, United Airlines, they blamed the terrorists. Why? Because the terrorists were the assholes who caused the pain. Forty Nine innocent people were killed in the Orlando shooting. They were killed because an asshole who couldn't accept the lifestyle of his victims, or himself, or both went into the nightclub and murdered those people. That is it.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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But when your own president engages in the same absurd behavior–declaring that ISIS is contained while the group was planning a devastating attack in Paris that it would launch the very next day, or declaring that America is safe from the terrorist threat of ISIS while a terrorist who had pledged allegiance to ISIS was on the run from police after assisting in the execution of at least 14 completely innocent people at an office party in California–it’s not even remotely amusing. It’s terrifying.

And it’s not just Obama. This disease of delusion has spread to members of his cabinet as well.

U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch announced after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino that her “greatest fear” was not future deadly terrorist attacks against innocent Americans. Instead, Lynch said her “greatest fear” was that there might be an anti-Muslim backlash as a result of the terrorist attacks. She then transitioned into a discussion about the need for America to accept more refugees from the Middle East, according to Politico, which covered her remarks at a Muslim Advocates dinner event on Thursday. She did not mention during her remarks that one of the San Bernardino terrorists was an immigrant with a Pakistani passport who had passed a Department of Homeland Security background check prior to being admitted into the U.S.

This is madness.

Barack Obama refused to admit that Americans are most certainly not safe from the threat of ISIS attack, even while ISIS apostles were murdering American citizens in California. The White House refuses to admit that ISIS, an acronym in which the very first letter stands for “Islamic,” is driven by a devotion to a radical interpretation of Islam that declares all infidels must be slaughtered by faithful Muslims in service of Allah. This is not foreign policy. It is a deadly form of political schizophrenia that has all but crippled the president’s ability to differentiate between reality and fantasy. “ISIS is not Islamic” and “Americans are nowhere near Baghdad” are two sides of the same delusional coin.

Our president has decided that his narrative is more important than our safety. That his legacy is more important than our security. Extreme Islamic terrorists are not “on the run.” ISIS is not “contained.” And America is not safe from the threat of future terrorist attacks from ISIS and its radical Islamic adherents.

That is the reality of 2015, whether Baghdad Barack wishes to acknowledge it or not.
[This could include those who blame the NRA for Islamic terrorist attacks...]
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Yes. Simply by floating on gun manufacturers' money and opposing any reasonable accommodations that could result in lower profits for said manufacturers (my opinion).

Below is a subject matter expert's study that shines some light on the myths that many gun owners (I am one, too) believe.
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/six-things-americans-should-know-about-mass-shootings
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Capt Chris McVeigh
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A better question would be "do the actions of the NRA enable mass shootings to continue?". To that I would say yes. I have no problem with a group advocating for the rights of its constituents, that's why groups like this exist. However, the NRA doesn't want to enter into a discussion, they want there to be no discussion and no changes whatsoever.

I see it the same way that the tobacco industry used to be and to a lesser extent (because public opinion has changed) still is. Steadfastly denying there is anything wrong, preventing any real research into the issue and using their own personal statistics to support their own beliefs. The problem I have with the NRA is that their goal is not to improve anything based on logical reasoning, but to firmly squash all debate on the issue.
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SSgt Christopher Brose
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I'm not a big fan of memes, but that one in the OP is great.
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