Posted on Mar 4, 2016
Is there a disconnect between the Korean & Vietnam Veterans & the Gulf/OIF/OEF Veterans?
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RP Members is there a true disconnect? If so, how do we bridge the gap between these two disctinct generations of veterans?
This was brought up in a conversation I had with CPT Jack Durish the other day and I would like to get some opinions from both generations on whether you feel there is a disconnect and some ideas on how we can bridge that gap?
Looking for some positive ideas!
This was brought up in a conversation I had with CPT Jack Durish the other day and I would like to get some opinions from both generations on whether you feel there is a disconnect and some ideas on how we can bridge that gap?
Looking for some positive ideas!
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There is a disconnect in many groups. Korea was glossed over by the public, hence the " forgotten war", overshadowed by WW2. Vietnam was a bitter political war, and the public would not separate the war from the Warriors. I have heard too many times from older vets about the 100 hrs war being a drop in bucket vs. their service. They also have a tendency to look down on OIF/OEF, cause of few large battles. They are happy to sit in the VFW, smoking and drinking, they are tired and don't want to do much. DS,OIF, OEF, are younger, have families,and want to work in the community, and feel unwanted in the traditional vet groups, hence all the new sandbox groups.it isn't this way in many VFW. But enough to make it hard for them to recruit the younger Veterans. IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS WAY! WAR IS WAR,LOSS OF BROTHERS AND SISTERS HURTS REGARDLESS, 100 HRS,1 YEAR 4 YEARS ETC!
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It really sure if the bridge can ever be gapped Sir. You have to take the reality from each war. One had greater loss then the other. Both had powerful unpredictable at the time enemies! Weapons and methods were different. War isn't always just war. Every veteran no matter from what era will always feel they had it harder because of whatever reason.
We have more cases of ptsd because child hood discipline is more laxed since our parents and grandparents. So those that hardl saw the rod if you will growing up, were not mentally prepared for the trauma of 3rd world countries that still practice sever child disciplines.
This is a hard question to answer COL Mikel J. Burroughs. Thank you for sharing though.
We have more cases of ptsd because child hood discipline is more laxed since our parents and grandparents. So those that hardl saw the rod if you will growing up, were not mentally prepared for the trauma of 3rd world countries that still practice sever child disciplines.
This is a hard question to answer COL Mikel J. Burroughs. Thank you for sharing though.
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Observed Veterans that fought in the beginning of war oppose those that fought on the backside. As all Veterans know the same happened between Veterans of a different war. Veterans for the most part are proud of their service. When push comes to shove Veterans grumble then close ranks.
What must count at this point is no Veteran be left out in the coming times. Never Again Will One Generation of Veterans Leave Behind Another Generation of Veterans.
What must count at this point is no Veteran be left out in the coming times. Never Again Will One Generation of Veterans Leave Behind Another Generation of Veterans.
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BI don't think so, at least it hasn't been my experience that there is. The respect and brotherhood we have transcends the generational difference.
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Is there a disconnect between the Korean & Vietnam Veterans and the Gulf/OIF/OEF Veterans?
Yes I think Korean and Vietnam Veterans were poorly treated by our country. They did not receive very good care at the VA when they came home from war. And some cities in CA, San Francisco, Berkeley, and Oakland were actually hostile to Military personnel in uniform. I witnessed this first hand on several occasions by two groups Act Up and Code Pink.
But from what I was told after Desert Storm our country changed 180 degrees in their attitude towards the military. I saw guys in uniform being cheered in airports in Boston and Los Angeles recently while 30 years ago that would never have happened.
Yes I think Korean and Vietnam Veterans were poorly treated by our country. They did not receive very good care at the VA when they came home from war. And some cities in CA, San Francisco, Berkeley, and Oakland were actually hostile to Military personnel in uniform. I witnessed this first hand on several occasions by two groups Act Up and Code Pink.
But from what I was told after Desert Storm our country changed 180 degrees in their attitude towards the military. I saw guys in uniform being cheered in airports in Boston and Los Angeles recently while 30 years ago that would never have happened.
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I think so, most of it by the welcome or not veterans came back to. I don't know how Korean veterans were received when they came home but while I was never deployed I had two very hostile and personal encounters while in uniform. I didn't have the disconnect with Korea that it seems others did because my 1st stepfather was a marine who committed suicide as I've been given to understand due to the experiences he had while there. Other than that I rarely heard of the Korean war.
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I don't think so, not in the real sense at least. The Korean War vets are in their eighties and nineties and they have more in common , age wise with the Vietnam vets who are in their 60's and 70's Some served in both wars and can relate with each other. On the other hand the wars that started the gulf war and then 9-11 are totally different in the sense the men and women are so much younger, better equipment but have to go back and forth between the States and war, it gets under the skin and causes, with reason, PTSD in a lot of cases. I think all of us are pretty brave for what we had to endure during combat duty but each war has been different in so many ways, it is hard to relate.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SFC David Xanten Totally agreed with your assessment and feedback. Thanks for the response!
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I think so. Mainly because of the age gap and the disconnect of continual service between family members. Most of the modern day vets father's likely didn't serve, but the grandparents did. Sparking the gap of relatability. Just my opinion.
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Based on the difficulty getting the younger generation interested in joining the American Legion and the VFW, yes.
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I speak to both scenarios daily. Many OIF/OEF veterans are ashamed to talk about their problems which seriously understates their need for treatment. Many Vietnam brothers underestimate their issues and are afraid to submit claims or seek treatment. So many of these honorable men think they do not deserve it; they are the most deserving. There is a great strength in them that they can share because you know as well as I that they did not have the support our brothers and sisters have today.
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