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I have been getting into this discussion with a few people lately and no one has been able to change my mind just yet. My position is that there is no unchanging and definite morality (e.g. a set of moral principles that, regardless of time, place, or culture remains unchanged and entirely understood). Rather, I believe that morality is changing and entirely depends on the time, place, culture, and utility. If it were beneficial to allow for murder and it allowed for the smoothest running society then we would have no problem with murder. For a real-world example, it was once perfectly acceptable to treat certain people as no more than equipment or animals to be used for physical labor; today, we understand that all human beings are valuable and should be treated as human beings. What do you believe? Is there an all-encompassing and permanent morality or is it dependent?
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SGT Joseph Gunderson I have pondered that question based on the very point you posted, Negros were property or chattel, once. In some states that law is still on the books. I cannot believe I am saying this but I have witnessed morality evolve or devolve with the culture of humanity. For me, personally, I believe and in my human capacity follow the Bible as my Soverign guide, as well as other religious, spiritual, moral, and secular instructions that guide towards the moral fiber I believe
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SGT Robert Johnson I have witnessed this fact also. I believe this is one of the reasons so many weird acts are committed in the name of God and country. For me, it seems that humans attempt to improve on the divine and that seems to yield pain and suffering, instead of peace, prosperity, and sane living.
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There is no expiration date on the Ten Commandments that God gave Moses. Every one of them is suitable for our time period as it was for the Israelites.
Moreover, the two great commandments that the Lord Jesus Christ added is very much relevant today:
1. To love the Lord thy God with all your heart, might, mind, and strength.
2. To love one another.
Moreover, the two great commandments that the Lord Jesus Christ added is very much relevant today:
1. To love the Lord thy God with all your heart, might, mind, and strength.
2. To love one another.
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SFC Greg Bruorton
Capt Gregory Prickett - I make reference to Exodus 20, 34, Deuteronomy 5 and Mosiah 13 in the Book of Mormon, which coincides. The 600+ laws you mention may well have been customs followed by the Israelites that had been fulfilled by Jesus Christ in the New Testament. As for the topic of slavery our Father in Heaven was and is against it, regardless that civilizations followed its practices.
I don't pretend to have all the answers; only those that have been given us in Scripture and through revelation by the prophets.
Furthermore, in my view, the freedom of religion does not come into conflict with the First Commandment because God's great purpose is for man's eternal life and progression through righteousness and agency--that agency that is precious to all.
I don't pretend to have all the answers; only those that have been given us in Scripture and through revelation by the prophets.
Furthermore, in my view, the freedom of religion does not come into conflict with the First Commandment because God's great purpose is for man's eternal life and progression through righteousness and agency--that agency that is precious to all.
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SFC Greg Bruorton
SGT Joseph Gunderson - No, Joseph, I do not argue, but it bears to reason that God wanted the best for Adam and his posterity as He now does for us. Much has been lost through the centuries, either willfully or with non-intent. Long before papyrus and parchment were invented, many of God's revelations were recorded on metallic plates--all of which cannot be located nor can they be expected to surface.
Disasters, floods, earthquakes, fire, and other natural events took part in destroying man's records of ancient days.
Disasters, floods, earthquakes, fire, and other natural events took part in destroying man's records of ancient days.
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Before this devolves into a holy war, a smattering of harsh truth...Lewis famously said it best at, “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.”
Never doubt the power of the fear of starvation. Most preconceived definitions of morality will go out the window. (Especially for those accustomed to never missing a meal, let alone three days worth)
Never doubt the power of the fear of starvation. Most preconceived definitions of morality will go out the window. (Especially for those accustomed to never missing a meal, let alone three days worth)
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SFC Greg Bruorton
While I stand by my comments made, there is simply no reason for me to argue, debate, or even attempt to change the opinions of others on this thread. With that said, I bow out. But as God is my witness, I know the Book of Mormon to be true and only translated once since the discovery of the gold plates.
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