Posted on Jun 26, 2019
PFC Celeste Quesada
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A SGT gave a PFC a counseling for not going to parade rest while seated. I would understand if he expected her to stand and then go to parade rest but from how he worded the counseling, he legitimately wanted her to stay seated with her hands at parade rest. This was a while back and I'm not even in anymore, I just want to see what you all think about this and if you feel like this was a waste of time/paperwork or justified.
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CSM Richard StCyr
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No, the position of parade rest is a rest position from the halt with the starting position being attention. So you can't be seated at the position of parade rest.
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SGT James LeFebvre
SGT James LeFebvre
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I had to read it a couple times to make sure i read it right. I'm trying to imagine what that would even look like.
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CSM Richard StCyr
CSM Richard StCyr
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SGT James LeFebvre - I sometimes have to wonder if folks are making these scenarios up or if things have really backslid this badly.
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SGT James LeFebvre
SGT James LeFebvre
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I saw some of it when I did time as an instructor. Unfortunately, while I don't think it's generally that bad, the wussification of the military has definitely had an effect.
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SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
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That is not even a drill command. All that is is merely sitting down with your hands behind your back. If that counseling was for that and only that, that SGT needs some further development. Parade rest is in the standing position with feet shoulder width apart. Not seated. If this counseling went to IG, they would have a field day with it and rightfully so. It grinds my gears when we as NCO's write stupid counseling's like this. Somebody mentioned on another thread that their NCO attempted to give them a counseling for not adding them as a friend on FB after being directed to add them as a friend. I couldn't do anything but facepalm. Even if that scenario was a joke, it was sour attempt at humor.

Here is text straight from the APD.

4-2. REST POSITIONS AT THE HALT
Any of the positions of rest may be commanded and executed from the Position of Attention.
a. Parade Rest. Parade Rest is commanded only from the Position of Attention. The
command for this movement is Parade, REST.
(1) On the command of execution REST, move the left foot about 10 inches to the
left of the right foot. Keep the legs straight without locking the knees, resting the weight of
the body equally on the heels and balls of the feet.

No where in there does it say anything about sitting down.

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MSgt Steven Holt
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That's as F'd up as a soup sandwich. WTF is that NCO thinking? Whatever corrective action s/he was hoping to achieve just got flushed down the crapper with that display of stupid.
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