Posted on May 5, 2015
SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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This is a serious but not so serious post about what lessons ISIS might've learned when they Messed with Texas. What are you thoughts??

"Authorities say the suspects, identified as Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, drove up to the building where the contest was being held in the Dallas suburb of Garland and opened fire. An unarmed school district security guard was wounded before a Garland police officer returned fire and killed both men."

So they drove up to the gate and basically committed suicide by cop. Nothing was accomplished except for two more terrorists sent to hell. I like that outcome. And really, why should we give a rats about hurting their wittle feewings when they are hell bent to kill us all???

GOOD Jesus baby Christ....

AND PS!! I know we have a LOT of bright people here.... ISIS CLAIMS!!! CLAIMS!!! So some will get what I am asking.... Good God all mighty... I have ELABORATED. Jesus

CLAIM: state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
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LTC Bink Romanick
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Nothing they weren't ISIS... ISIS claims a many deeds but it's part of their propaganda.
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LTC Bink Romanick
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The ISIS connection to these guys was limited to some tweets from fighters in Somalia and Syria... I don't know if that's a true ISIS connection or not.
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Actually Sir, one was sentenced to 5 years and some fines for more than just that.
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SSG Infantryman
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If they wanted to scare anyone I'm sure it backfired. Those two have been turned into a complete joke.
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LTC Bink Romanick
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I guess if you want to be scared thinking that it's ISIS..be my guest.
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Considering the fact that it seems that only islam is protected by the media, and any criticism of the infiltration in our Western societies is deemed Islamophobia, without even trying to addressing the questions of their well documented intentions to create a religious based government and laws that clearly be detrimental for women and children as well as other religions, there seems to be no other way to stand up
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SGT Team Leader
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I think hopefully ISIS has learned that their BS won't be tolerated and the same attitude should be reflected in all states just like in Texas.
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EXACTLY!! We are not like those that are over there. We will fight to death for our land. They're messing with a whole different can of worms here in the United States.
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SGT Infantryman (Airborne)
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Right on SGT (Join to see) , we have never run from protecting our rights and our country, and never will.
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SGT Team Leader
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If anything like that happens around here at JBLM me and my team will be ready and willing to dish out a whooping!!!
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2c5ee77748054aa4957714b0af0100a0/accused-texas-gunman-was-former-target-fbi-terror-probe

A little update. Why does this tend to happen?? I wonder what it is that made the FBI NOT think he was a target anymore??
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LTC Deputy Division Chief
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That is a good point! If they were tracking, why didn't they attack. Oh wait, they need more evidence. Sometimes they drag the tailing of suspected terrorist too long.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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It happens because information isn't criminal. They knew he frequented terrorist sites and had conversations, but nothing they could charge him over. At some point, you decide the guy is a bag of hot air and move on. Most of the time, they're right. Most of the time.
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Well, one of them was actually arrested.

"Simpson, of Phoenix, was arrested in 2010 after a four-year terror investigation. But despite an investigation that involved more than 1,500 hours of recorded conversations, including Simpson's discussions about fighting nonbelievers for Allah and plans to link up with "brothers" in Somalia, the government prosecuted him on only one minor charge — lying to a federal agent. He faced three years of probation and $600 in fines and court fees."

I mean, IDK... Unless I wouldn't go on their site.
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PO3 John Jeter
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How do we balance scrutiny against oppression? There's a lot of people out there spouting rhetoric and bad mouthing their "food trough". More often than not they're just blowing smoke for the sake of appearance. How much money and time do we spend on these blowhards? How many serious threats can slip through while the attention is on the mouthpieces? How intrusive do we want big brother in OUR own lives while they're monitoring for threats? The formula for this equation is far from simple..........
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MSgt James Mullis
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Hopefully nothing! Because I really like the idea that Achmed (the dead terrorist) has a couple of new friends. However, if I were writing an after action report I could think of several mistakes they made.
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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Did they say they were going to be females??? HOLY CRAP!!!
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What mistakes would you write on the action report?? Just very curious.
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MSgt James Mullis
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These Achmed wannabees had no idea what they were doing. Apparently, they did not know that the police had snipers on the building and they had no chance of making it inside the building alive (without a diversion). Other things they could have done include: Drive around the block a couple of times to see where the guards are. Shoot at the armed guards first. Place a sniper to cover your entry. Enter from different locations at the same time. Drive your vehicle into the building rather than parking in front of the entrance. Possibly enter dressed as an attendee.
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Oh I get it. I thought you were talking about the mistakes the police officers may have made.
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SFC Charles S.
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SGT (Join to see) Yeah, you just gotta Love Texas... There is so much Win in this Image.. :) I just can't help smiling.
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Two more terrorists sent to hell!
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LTC Paul Labrador
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I think it may have thaught them to pick softer targets for next time....
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That might be the case. I would hope not tho
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SGT Signal Support Systems Specialist
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Detroit??
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SFC Charles S.
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Chicago, or NY. I thought better of that last one.
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They learned Texans shoot back #DontMessWithTexas
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I would say, Don't Mess with any Red State. I think they got that message. :-D
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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I'm not sure ISIS had anything to do with this really. Not in any formal sense anyway. So what did they learn? There's an expendable sucker born every minute and maybe, just maybe, shouting random calls to action on social media works.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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Otherwise, yeah, if you're going for "look how scary and awesome we are!" that was the wrong horse to back.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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Actually, I don't think they care about that. They are, however, propping up the lunatic fringe that thinks ISIS is massing in Mexico or has secret training camps all over America. If anything, the claim foments division within the US by setting those who demand radical action against those that think there are moral limits.

What they'd REALLY like to see is the US turning on its Muslim citizens and residents. That would shut us out of the Middle East completely and end any hope we have of positively influencing outcomes in trouble spots like Egypt, Libya and Israel/Palestine. It would also probably hang Tunisia out in the breeze too, and as the only successful example of the Arab Spring (incidentally, also the only country where protestors didn't employ violence), losing it to extremists would be a major blow to the future of moderation in the region.
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The Mexico Claim, I have heard from one of the border agents, is pretty legit. I got a warning call before the military printed anything. But, people are so closed minded, they believe they'd kill the Mexicans because they are infidels. Not if they have an agenda they won't.

I believe they tested Texas and realized that this was not a great state to perform a major Jihad in. The 5 states they listed are Blue States. Coincidence, who knows, but if the American-turned-ISIS member has some input, they will relay the message about the ANTI-GUN states.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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As someone who lived for years on a border and has lots of border agent friends, I would take that with a grain of salt. Most of them are clueless and getting their info from the same shady places the rest of us are.

The challenge to the Mexico claim isn't that ISIS would kill Mexicans, but that they and the Cartels are so ideologically opposed that the relationship wouldn't make sense, even for money. Never mind that the last thing the Cartels want is to get caught smuggling ISIS into the US. Just ask the Medellin Cartel what happens when we catch them engaging in terrorism. They serve their own interests and ISIS/Islamic terrorists really have nothing to offer them that has a decent cost/benefit outcome.

As for the states claimed, there is one thing I'll give ISIS. They are good at propaganda and they pick their targets well. Many of their propagandists are either Westerners or Western educated so they know where the divisions are and how to kick hard at the wedge issues. In other words, if anything ISIS says confirms something ideologically for you, consider it with caution.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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Lesson learned?
Don't send a couple Arizona whackos to do the job?
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LOL! Right?! And it'll take more than a couple of rifles to take our PO's down. He should get a medal!
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PO1 John Miller
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What's wrong with people from Arizona? :)
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Not a thing!!
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