Posted on Aug 8, 2014
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Letter from a fired Army Major

I found this post last night from one of the OSB selectees. My first thought was this guy just announced to the world that he had a major problem and that no one would hire him. Rereading it this morning, I think he may be more gutsy that I initially gave him credit for. His letter will not change the board results, but maybe someone high up will read it and think about some institutional changes.

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CSM Mike Maynard
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As a CSM, I see this same type of thought process for folks who come to see the Bn Cdr for Field Grade Misconduct.

Those that have demonstrated a lapse in character always want to focus on competence. They and their supervisors always want to talk about how great they are at their job, the production contribution they are making and how they teach/train Soldiers about the job.

They miss the point - misconduct is about character - completely separate than competence.

Our force cannot function solely on competence - it is a Profession and we have been entrusted by the people - in the end, we are a Profession because of our character.

Bottom-line - if a certain number of Majors have to go, and honestly, most are really good and demonstrate the same performance/potential, the first ones identified for reduction are going to be those that at some point had a lapse or momentary lapse of character.
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SSG Stephen Arnold SSG (Join to see) i would rather have a vet with mole who could shoot straight than a squared away soldier who panicked every time. But let's rewind a bit. Going back to the 70 where all too many returning Vietnam veterans had a lot of problems. When it came to draw down, they would cite character issues while the real measurable (competence) was completely doisregarded. Those politicians and more specifically civilians who do not like service members set one against the other. It is hardly about character but the lack of it. I say he was wronged. Afterall he spent several years and a character person and why wasn't he gotten rid of earlier? And why isn't there second chance for someone who redeemed themselves?
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LTC Field Artillery Officer
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There is no such thing as a combat Soldier and a garrison Soldier...we are all Soldiers (Marines, Airmen, Sailors) and are expected to act accordingly regardless of where we are.
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SFC Clark Adams
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Criminal acts versus dumbs*** are horses of different colors, violations both but not the same. Missing formation vs AWOL, losing a piece of equipment vs stealing gear I hope all of us are smart enough to realize mistakes don't equal criminal behavior or character flaws. Just the $.02 of an "Old Soldier" sitting on the sidelines who recalls back when having an Article 15 wasn't a career ending item and it was considered to reflect minor mistakes that were noted and you were punished for it then, not for the rest of your career.
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Mike Jay
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Exactly! And should stick to our words, I.e. when giving a Soldier another chance to prove himself and then simply go back on our word once he does prove himself.
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COL Old Soldier
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DUIs for Officers have always been the kiss of death going back to when I entered the Army in the early 80s. He was lucky that there were two wars going on and the Army needed all the officers it could get.....or he'd have been drummed out immediately back in 2006. He has also short changed himself by not researching his options coming off active duty. He could easily slide over into the Army Reserves and finish out his career and get a pretty good retirement based on all the points he'd be creditted with from active duty....they are hurting for Captains and Majors. Even if he never got promoted again, he could get 20 good retirement years before the Reserves would manditorily retire him. The National Guard would be a tougher option based on his rank, but it's not unheard of. He also doesn't help himself in the credibility department....by not proof reading his paper and obviously writing it when he was still seething with emotions from the disappointment of being let go. If he's a true warrior-scholar as he suggests.....then he needs to pull himself up by the boot straps, tighten his belt, and soldier on!
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1LT William Clardy
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CPT (Join to see), not all of us were born fully imbued with "integrity and self-control". Some of us learned how to exercise good judgment only after gaining experience with bad judgment.

Also, while it seems popular these days to equate driving after drinking with a death sentence, the reality is that the increased risk level is still surprisingly low -- otherwise drunk drivers would be much more thorough about self-culling. I'm not saying that it's smart to drive drunk, but the additional risk to others is not *that* much more than the added risk you create for the folks around you when you call home as you leave work to discuss what you might need to pick up for supper.
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LTC Stephen C.
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COL (Join to see), I attended the Signal Officer Basic Course at Fort Gordon, from JAN74 - APR74. At that time, the MP school was located there also. There would be speed limit signs of 17.5 MPH (something crazy like that). Anyway, if an officer got a speeding ticket it was big trouble. As you indicated, if an officer got a DUI, military life was over. 1LT Sandy Annala
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Mike Jay
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@SFC Jere Hawkins - very true, bottom line Army used him just as he used the Army. He should have known that his DUI conviction will come back to haunt him, Gen's aide, Ranger tab etc. weren't going to help him in the long run.
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MAJ Jim Woods
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In 1968 I was between tours to VN. A Captain and one of my best friends just had the Commanding General of the Infantry School pin the Distinguished Service Cross on him for his actions as a LT. Platoon Leader. Then turn around two weeks later and he got a Field Grade Article 15 for a DUI he got over in Phoenix City. Phoenix City, as all us Benning Boys know, is notorious for setting up anyone with a DOD sticker. My friend had 2 drinks at a bar just across the river from Columbus, GA had gotten into his car, started it, and the PCPD cited him for DUI (no Breathalyzers back then) while he was still in the parking lot.

After this event, he was told that he would not make Major and should consider voluntary release from active duty. The Army not only lost a very good combat leader but put a bad taste in the mouths of those he had to leave behind.

SFC Jason Kendrick is right, the system needs change. As the Army downsizes, it needs to retain Soldiers with the Majors experience. Especially when he took the initiative of seeking help and making corrections. But, for now we "Embrace The Suck".
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LTC Richard Wasserman
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The one size fits all discipline has been an issue for a long time. The problem is-- all is different for various ranks/services. The story continues--------
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LTC Stephen C.
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MAJ Jim Woods, I'm sure it's no consolation for you and certainly not for your captain friend. However, he was very likely in the wrong place at the wrong time. "Phenix City, AL was notorious during the 1940s and 1950s for being a haven for the KKK, organized crime, prostitution, and gambling. Many of its customers came from the United States Army training center at Fort Benning, Georgia." After a political assassination in 1954, "Governor Seth Gordon Persons placed the town under martial law and sent in 75 National Guardsmen under the command of World War II veteran General Walter J. Hanna. The guardsmen performed around-the-clock raids on nightclubs, warehouses, and gambling institutions, and nearby Fort Benning declared Phenix City off limits to its soldiers."
Thus, when your captain friend hit Phenix City in 1968, the city was still recovering from its organized crime days. Today, Phenix City is just the sleepy little town west of Fort Benning and north of Fryar drop zone. 1LT Sandy Annala
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