Posted on Dec 21, 2018
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Under Article 2 of the UCMJ, the Army maintains court-martial jurisdiction over retired personnel. Army Regulation 27-10, Military Justice, states “Retired members of a regular component of the Armed Forces who are entitled to pay are subject to the provisions of the UCMJ.
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LTC Gary Earls
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So the FBI can lie to you and not be punished but if you lie to the FBI then you go to jail. Something is wrong here.
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SSG Joseph Branham
SSG Joseph Branham
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Way more to the story than what meets the eye. Read up on what happened and you will see he was railroaded. He was coerced because of the threat against his son. Check it out. He was made an example of with the rotten government going after him.
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SSG Kenneth Aponte
SSG Kenneth Aponte
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Your choice of word "lie" is a bit much. Particularly as a LTC I believe you should know the difference between lie and deceptive interrogation. Every law enforcement agency has that ability. It was affirmed by the Supreme Court in 1969. He chose to be part of an entity that tried too over through Democracy and our government. So yeah he needs to pay a hefty price and whatever that is I'm all for it. In regards to his pension... Take that as well... His actions were callous, reprehensible and unbecoming. He wore the uniform during most of these events so I say HELL YES TAKE THAT TOO.
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CPT Jose A “Tony” Fernandez
CPT Jose A “Tony” Fernandez
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Please; respectfully, answer the question at hand.
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PV2 Glen Lewis
PV2 Glen Lewis
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He earned his retirement benefits and should receive them.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I say leave his military pension alone if his infractions did not occur in service to the military. They are unrelated.
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SFC Senior Food Service Nco
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MAJ Ken Landgren Sir, it's not double jeopardy when you know the rules. The rules where not changed on him. He played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Hubris kills, and it certainly bite him hard. He's not the first to lose a military pension due to criminal activity after retirement, just more promenant. His value to society is no greater then the lowest Private. A bit less accually as an E-1 Private has the greater ROI potential.
As an aside, people who get themselves into trouble that deep tend to have been dabbling in shady business for a while. Perhaps his actions while still commissioned need a bit of scrutiny.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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SFC (Join to see) - I don't like it when a SM is hammered by civilian and military authorities.
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty To he only needs to mirandized once. If they hadn't, his lawyers would have jumped on that immediately.
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A1C Michael Zivkovic
A1C Michael Zivkovic
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Does anyone value integrity anymore, or are we just a nation of party affiliation! Anyone remember the oath we took? Flynn betrayed his oath, full stop!
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SGT Lou Meza
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I'm of the opinion that Gen. Flynn should not be punished twice for the same offense.
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SSG Rob Lawrence
SSG Rob Lawrence
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Using your analysis, I am guessing you are against someone who gets a DWI and pays a civilian fine, should not get punished under the UCMJ then too. When you live by two different codes, you should be punished under both codes in my book. When you swear the oath, you voluntarily accept the fact that you are subject to both sets of rules.
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SSG Rob Lawrence
SSG Rob Lawrence
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS When you raise your right hand, you voluntarily subject yourself to two sets of rules.
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SSG Rob Lawrence
SSG Rob Lawrence
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SSgt Bill Evans His trial judge called him a traitor. His punishment was no where near what a traitor should receive.
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PO3 Edward Riddle
PO3 Edward Riddle
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SSG Rob Lawrence - So what does that mean? Look at who the judge was. A communist.
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