Posted on May 23, 2015
Military tributes at baseball games: True honors or hollow gestures?
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The authenticity of some military tributes at sporting events came into question earlier this month, when the Department of Defense was revealed to have used taxpayer money to pay teams to stage them.
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) brought the practice to light when he outlined how the New York Jets accepted $115,000 from the National Guard to host ceremonies, including one that recognized a “Hometown Hero” on the field. Flake requested detailed information on the practice from the Department of Defense. While the results have not returned, Flake’s office found that teams from every league, including the NCAA, have contracts with the Department of Defense.
“Most of the teams do these salutes without compensation, without a contract,” Flake said. “Some may have a local sponsor for it, which they note, or they just do it as a goodwill gesture from the team. It’s always a popular item. It’s probably almost as popular as the Kiss Cam. There’s not a lack of patriotism at these games. People stand up during the Star-Spangled Banner, and that’s a great thing. When you have this sponsored by the taxpayer or by the military, it just kind of, I think, diminishes the efforts of the teams and other who do it on their own.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/military-tributes-at-baseball-games-true-honors-or-hollow-gestures/2015/05/23/3dc36364-0154-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?hpid=z6
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) brought the practice to light when he outlined how the New York Jets accepted $115,000 from the National Guard to host ceremonies, including one that recognized a “Hometown Hero” on the field. Flake requested detailed information on the practice from the Department of Defense. While the results have not returned, Flake’s office found that teams from every league, including the NCAA, have contracts with the Department of Defense.
“Most of the teams do these salutes without compensation, without a contract,” Flake said. “Some may have a local sponsor for it, which they note, or they just do it as a goodwill gesture from the team. It’s always a popular item. It’s probably almost as popular as the Kiss Cam. There’s not a lack of patriotism at these games. People stand up during the Star-Spangled Banner, and that’s a great thing. When you have this sponsored by the taxpayer or by the military, it just kind of, I think, diminishes the efforts of the teams and other who do it on their own.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/military-tributes-at-baseball-games-true-honors-or-hollow-gestures/2015/05/23/3dc36364-0154-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?hpid=z6
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The people who buy the tickets to these games; who stand and cheer after the National Anthem show me that the patriotism is real.
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At first glance I suppose you would be upset. But if you think about it a little it is nothing but paying for advertising. I really don't see any difference whether they buy into NASCAR or stage the games. If it brings good qualified individuals then okay.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
I see your point MSgt (Join to see), but I have to be honest with you, I thinks it is absolutely appalling that supposedly scarce DOD dollars are going for this, or NASCAR, or anything else.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
Yes I would agree. In today's pinch for dollars and draw down of forces, money should be better spent.
Yes I would agree. In today's pinch for dollars and draw down of forces, money should be better spent.
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I've never minded Military sponsorship in auto racing, rodeo, or any of those things because the money spent on sponsoring those activities comes out of the funding allocated to Recruiting Command. So, if the powers that be and their marketing team decide they can reach more potential recruits through sponsorship of a NASCAR team and a weekly presence at each of the 32 races on the NASCAR schedule than they can through a national television ad campaign, let 'em do it, so long as they aren't robbing money from elsewhere to cover the expenses.
The issue I have with the NFL is the NFL does absolutely nothing out of kindness or a sense of patriotism; everything is scripted, choreographed, and paid for by someone else. Remember this past year, when they wanted to bill Katie Perry for the "privilege" of playing the Super Bowl Halftime Show? Roger Goodell figured the military should pay for the "privilege" of 32 teams hosting various Tribute to the Troops festivities at games on or near Veteran's Day. Never mind the fact that the NFL makes a ton in profits and licensing fees off the sales of commemorative hats, jerseys, and other gear, why settle for that when the DOD will pony up more, right? In fairness to MLB, the NHL, the NBA, and NASCAR, the NFL is the only league I am aware of that has the cojones to do this. I know that for all of the fly-overs at NASCAR events, NASCAR reimburses the government for the cost of the fuel expended.
The issue I have with the NFL is the NFL does absolutely nothing out of kindness or a sense of patriotism; everything is scripted, choreographed, and paid for by someone else. Remember this past year, when they wanted to bill Katie Perry for the "privilege" of playing the Super Bowl Halftime Show? Roger Goodell figured the military should pay for the "privilege" of 32 teams hosting various Tribute to the Troops festivities at games on or near Veteran's Day. Never mind the fact that the NFL makes a ton in profits and licensing fees off the sales of commemorative hats, jerseys, and other gear, why settle for that when the DOD will pony up more, right? In fairness to MLB, the NHL, the NBA, and NASCAR, the NFL is the only league I am aware of that has the cojones to do this. I know that for all of the fly-overs at NASCAR events, NASCAR reimburses the government for the cost of the fuel expended.
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It would be nice if someone else picked up the tab but sometimes you got to pay for your own PR. Oh Well.
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I think the ones where there is military participation would tend to be genuine.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
I truly hope so Capt (Join to see). We better not be using tax dollars to pay the league and then supplying them troops too!
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I'm not exactly on point here, but it seems like a good place to comment on something that bothers me:
We already sing The National Anthem before a baseball game starts. The 7th inning stretch is for Take Me Out to the Ball Game. I don't think we need God Bless America after the 7th inning anymore. I fully understand why they started doing it after 9/11 but I think it's time to stop. I think one patriotic display per baseball game is enough. Tradition in baseball is important, and I would like it to return to the way it used to be.
Oh, and the DH; we should get rid of that too.
We already sing The National Anthem before a baseball game starts. The 7th inning stretch is for Take Me Out to the Ball Game. I don't think we need God Bless America after the 7th inning anymore. I fully understand why they started doing it after 9/11 but I think it's time to stop. I think one patriotic display per baseball game is enough. Tradition in baseball is important, and I would like it to return to the way it used to be.
Oh, and the DH; we should get rid of that too.
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While I would hope that a $115,000 gesture is not the same as a $115,000 commercial (nascar for example), it most certainly is possible. However, lets face it, $115,000 is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things. So, taking money to pay for expenses I don't particularly think indicates that a particular institution is any less than another when it comes to being patriotic. For example, there are thousands of companies that offer discounts or "freebies" on memorial or veterans day. It is still advertising. They do, can and will receive additional revenue throughout the year and not a one of them would be accused of being disingenuous. Being philanthropic with my meager income to charity A and not charity B does not mean that I do not believe that charity B is any less important. It just means that charity A is where I have decided to give my money. Think about it, how many folks donate to charity just because they are getting a tax benefit? I use to work for a company that touted all the hours it's employees donated to the community, all while wearing the company's name. Was the giving worth while? Absolutely. Would the company have done it without the press? Probably not. Not only that, the company was not allowing those employees to volunteer "on the clock". The employees had to do this on their time. So, tell me this, was the company really the one doing the donating?
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depends on if it is like the NFL where they make the troops actually pay, or they are doing it out of the general kindness of the idea.
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