Posted on Dec 8, 2014
Murica? Do you think that it is right for College Students to say Pledge Against the USA?
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I have said it all along but this is just part of a populace that is growing and that is anti-USA. I think it is time for us to put a reality hat and stop with the partisan shenanigans of a small portion of this society. Here below is the utter non-sense:
"If you sign up for Denver college professor Charles Angeletti's American Civilization class, be forewarned that you're going to have to recite his invective-filled 'New Pledge' -- and according to some of his students, also be ready to swallow a big helping of his politics.
Angeletti, who teaches at Metropolitan State University of Denver, has students learn an anti-American spoof of the Pledge of Allegiance that denounces the U.S. as a Republican-controlled bastion of injustice, all while spewing his own far-left brand of politics, according to current and former students.
“I pledge allegiance to and wrap myself in the flag of the United States Against Anything Un-American,” reads Angeletti's version. “And to the Republicans for which it stands, two nations, under Jesus, rich against poor, with curtailed liberty and justice for all except blacks, homosexuals, women who want abortions, Communists, welfare queens, treehuggers, feminazis, illegal immigrants, children of illegal immigrants, and you, if you don't watch your step.”
“We’re very racist, we’re very repressive, we’re very Christian oriented, we don’t tolerate other kinds of thinking in this country.”
- Charles Angeletti, professor at Metropolitan State University
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/08/college-prof-makes-students-recite-anti-american-pledge-allegiance/
What are your views other than it was Fox News? Are you really for America and this? Leave your voting cards at home...
"If you sign up for Denver college professor Charles Angeletti's American Civilization class, be forewarned that you're going to have to recite his invective-filled 'New Pledge' -- and according to some of his students, also be ready to swallow a big helping of his politics.
Angeletti, who teaches at Metropolitan State University of Denver, has students learn an anti-American spoof of the Pledge of Allegiance that denounces the U.S. as a Republican-controlled bastion of injustice, all while spewing his own far-left brand of politics, according to current and former students.
“I pledge allegiance to and wrap myself in the flag of the United States Against Anything Un-American,” reads Angeletti's version. “And to the Republicans for which it stands, two nations, under Jesus, rich against poor, with curtailed liberty and justice for all except blacks, homosexuals, women who want abortions, Communists, welfare queens, treehuggers, feminazis, illegal immigrants, children of illegal immigrants, and you, if you don't watch your step.”
“We’re very racist, we’re very repressive, we’re very Christian oriented, we don’t tolerate other kinds of thinking in this country.”
- Charles Angeletti, professor at Metropolitan State University
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/08/college-prof-makes-students-recite-anti-american-pledge-allegiance/
What are your views other than it was Fox News? Are you really for America and this? Leave your voting cards at home...
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It is so funny to me that people spend so much time protesting against America. Spewing anti-American crap, attempting to gain their 5 minutes of fame (thanks to social media), not realizing that in many places in the world, they would be jailed for saying, posting or publishing the same stuff. The 1st Amendment protects his right to spew whatever this stupid sh@t he wants, but it also protects my right to say...F#CK YOU DOUCHE BAG!
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SSgt (Join to see), there's a real easy fix for this guy. He doesn't like it here, I'll be happy to pay for his one way fare to the country of his choice, as I'm sure many others on this forum would be glad to do. No dual citizenship; it's clear he doesn't want it. However, confront this guy with such an offer, and I'll bet he says he wants to stay right here. Let's see, Iran, China, North Korea, and on and on. Wonder in which of these countries he could run his mouth as he does here in the good ole U.S. of A.?
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CPT (Join to see)
It's a pretty common tactic to challenge someone's credibility with no basis when you don't have anything substantive to offer in response to their argument. Cute meme by the way.
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SSgt (Join to see)
CPT (Join to see) It is not that there is no substance but one that you don't agree with.
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I think every American has the right to freedom of speech, however to express your views in a derogatory manner against America in a public institution is so disrespectful. Wow this is taking ideology to the unknown and then some. SMDH...unbelievable nowadays in society-just my opinion.
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SSG Clyde Koontz
The article does say "be prepared to recite". That does seem to indicate he would force them to say it out loud.
And how do you indoctrinate Americans to be American? The pledge of Allegiance is just that, a pledge to be loyal to our country.
And how do you indoctrinate Americans to be American? The pledge of Allegiance is just that, a pledge to be loyal to our country.
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SGT (Join to see)
Can someone other than yourself delete your comments and responses? I know this isn't the right place to ask, but this is the thread that my response and comments were deleted from.
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Do I think it's right for them to have freedom of speech? Yes. Do I agree with their opinion? No. Freedom of speech isn't a weapon we wield against those with differing opinions. When you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, you swore to uphold the First Amendment rights of every American. Not just WTF-shitbags like this professor.
Or as Voltaire is attributed by Evelyn Beatrice Hall as having said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Period. Full stop.
Now having said that, if I had to take this a-hole's class and he FORCED me to say his stupid pledge, I'd have a real issue with that (as well as the duty to call him on his hypocritical irony).
Or as Voltaire is attributed by Evelyn Beatrice Hall as having said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Period. Full stop.
Now having said that, if I had to take this a-hole's class and he FORCED me to say his stupid pledge, I'd have a real issue with that (as well as the duty to call him on his hypocritical irony).
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SSG Tim Everett
Cpl (Join to see) per the article: "If you sign up for Denver college professor Charles Angeletti's American Civilization class" I would have to categorically state that I sincerely doubt American Civilisation 101 or 011 or whatever the hell THAT is, is anything but an elective, not required for any degree whatsoever except perhaps a BS degree (haha see what I did there?) in Radical Political Slacktivism. Which is worse than fast food management.
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SSG Tim Everett This isn't limited to THAT professor, it's happening across the academic spectrum. He is just a sample of the overall picture.
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LTC Paul Labrador
SSG Tim Everett, as you know a 101 or 011 level class is Freshman level. Depending on the requirements of the Board of Regents, classes like this may actually be mandatory for the "general education" portion of a bachelor's degree. And depending on how this class is categorized (ie history vs socialogy) this very well may be a mandatory class to take.
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SSG Tim Everett
LTC Paul Labrador presuming that's correct, I again refer to the default position of "if I had to take this a-hole's class and he FORCED me to say his stupid pledge, I'd have a real issue with that (as well as the duty to call him on his hypocritical irony)."
I'd flat-out refuse, publicly in front of his entire class, to say his dumb-ass pledge. And if he tried to give me a failing grade for it, we'd have a real problem on our hands and the school administration would hear about it.
This is where I implore people to be the sheepdog, not the sheep.
I'd flat-out refuse, publicly in front of his entire class, to say his dumb-ass pledge. And if he tried to give me a failing grade for it, we'd have a real problem on our hands and the school administration would hear about it.
This is where I implore people to be the sheepdog, not the sheep.
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(DISCLAIMER: It is a well know fact that I speak my mind. I do not believe in pussy-footing around and/or being politically correct. I've allowed a few expletives fly from my lips. I'm patriotic to a fault and have absolutely zero-tolerance for anyone who doesn't love and appreciate the United States of America. I consider myself only a moderate Republican as I vote as I intellectually believe.
And, I apologize in advance if anything I say is offensive to anyone or comes across in anyway that is unbecoming of an Officer in the United States Armed Forces. )
I respect this man's constitutional right of free speech. We here make that possible for him.
However, I believe that what this liberal asshole is doing is extremely disrespectful to the Country that provides his civil liberties and that I love and selflessly serve. And, the fact that he's doing so at an academic institution and in a way that breeds further liberal idiocy makes me want to friggin puke. It's rather hypocritical when you think of it....
That being said, if he chooses to disregard his manners, patriotism, loyalty, common sense, and the beautiful intent of the United States Constitution, then I have no compunction in doing so also.
So, given the opportunity, my solution to this "problem" would be this: This jerk needs to beat unconscious with a flag pole having the colors attached. He then should have duct affixed over his eyes with all limbs restrained. The colors should then be removed from the staff and used to gag this guy. His limp body should then be placed into and seal in a parcel container and shipped to someplace like North Korea.
Just sayin....
And, I apologize in advance if anything I say is offensive to anyone or comes across in anyway that is unbecoming of an Officer in the United States Armed Forces. )
I respect this man's constitutional right of free speech. We here make that possible for him.
However, I believe that what this liberal asshole is doing is extremely disrespectful to the Country that provides his civil liberties and that I love and selflessly serve. And, the fact that he's doing so at an academic institution and in a way that breeds further liberal idiocy makes me want to friggin puke. It's rather hypocritical when you think of it....
That being said, if he chooses to disregard his manners, patriotism, loyalty, common sense, and the beautiful intent of the United States Constitution, then I have no compunction in doing so also.
So, given the opportunity, my solution to this "problem" would be this: This jerk needs to beat unconscious with a flag pole having the colors attached. He then should have duct affixed over his eyes with all limbs restrained. The colors should then be removed from the staff and used to gag this guy. His limp body should then be placed into and seal in a parcel container and shipped to someplace like North Korea.
Just sayin....
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CPT Chris Loomis
PO2 John W. That's a good point. I never thought of it from that perspective.
HOOOAH!!!
HOOOAH!!!
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CPT Chris Loomis "He has every right to say what he wants to say, beat he should be beat and shipped to another country for saying what he said."
is that an accurate summary? Now THAT seems hypocritical.
is that an accurate summary? Now THAT seems hypocritical.
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You know the old saying, opinions are like A-Holes, everybody's got one. In this case this guy IS one - a BIG one.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
Well, at least in college you can drop the class. I wonder how long he would keep his job if he starts have zero students sign up for his classes every quarter?
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LTC Paul Labrador most universities i've seen have more than one teacher for almost all but the most specialized classes, to decrease the load on the teacher and to meet the demand. If that class is truly a required one, I don't think this individual is the only one teaching it. On the flipside, how many students are going to throw a wrench into their academic career plan just to avoid this teacher?
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As much as I love Colorado (and I intend on retiring there), Denver/Boulder area is infested with far left leaning radicals, particularly in the local academia. While not the same school, this is the environment that people like Ward Churchill thrive in.
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Cpl (Join to see)
What I don't understand, is that if they hate this country that much, why don't they participate in free-will and leave this country.
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Cpl (Join to see) because they also know that no where else could they spout a tirade like this and expect little to no repercussions.
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SSgt Lonnie Montgomery
Folks like this have the right under our constitution to say these things I know. But, what really gets me is that “we the people” via the academic world and government pay these folks for doing it. Plus we give them “tenure” so they become untouchable while doing it.
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This is what they teach now. It's not surprising when you realize it's the radical 60's anti-war hippies at the educators podium in most every lecture hall in the US.
They also teach that all white people are racists through micro-aggression. They teach that the founders were awful people; that the US is an imperial country who doesn't deserve it's progress and according to the "science czar," John Holdren, co-author of Ecoscience, the US MUST be deindustrialized.
Also, there are teachers, one being William Ayers of the weather underground a friend of the current pResident, that actually declared a "Declaration of a State of War" against the United States government in 1970. It's amazing so many of the "educated" believed everything that their professors said without any shred of evidence.
They also teach that all white people are racists through micro-aggression. They teach that the founders were awful people; that the US is an imperial country who doesn't deserve it's progress and according to the "science czar," John Holdren, co-author of Ecoscience, the US MUST be deindustrialized.
Also, there are teachers, one being William Ayers of the weather underground a friend of the current pResident, that actually declared a "Declaration of a State of War" against the United States government in 1970. It's amazing so many of the "educated" believed everything that their professors said without any shred of evidence.
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I think they can say whatever they want, that is their constitutional right.
Now, that being said, if they are receiving money from the Federal Government (too include government backed loans) for their college or the college itself receives Federal Government money......Then their should be consequences!
We should not tolerate disloyalty from people that are benefiting from Tax Payer provided benefits.
Now, that being said, if they are receiving money from the Federal Government (too include government backed loans) for their college or the college itself receives Federal Government money......Then their should be consequences!
We should not tolerate disloyalty from people that are benefiting from Tax Payer provided benefits.
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CPT (Join to see)
Civilians don't owe loyalty to the government...the government owes loyalty to citizens. The former is called nationalism and totalitarianism and the latter is what we know to be our Republic. Though I agree that any discussion of political controversy needs to be in a strictly academic context if it's publicly funded.
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LTC Martin Metz
In an academic sense, both sides should be presented. The true purpose of universities and colleges should be to teach upcoming leaders in our communities how to think....NOT what to think.
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COL Ted Mc
LTC Paul Heinlein One of the (possible) reasons for the apparent preponderance of "left-wing" opinion in higher education is the fact that "academia" doesn't pay well and the jobs that do pay well insist on actual and verifiable positive performance.
Mind you, as an old friend of mine once said "The only thing worse than knee jerk conservatives are knee jerk liberals. At least with knee jerk conservatives, you know what the resulting problems will be if you take their advice.".
Mind you, as an old friend of mine once said "The only thing worse than knee jerk conservatives are knee jerk liberals. At least with knee jerk conservatives, you know what the resulting problems will be if you take their advice.".
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LTC Paul Heinlein
CPT (Join to see) - Respect your opinion and understand your stance. But, if you accept money from the Federal Government for school (too include Federally Backed Schools Loans), then you do owe Loyalty. Otherwise, do not accept the Federal Funds.
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What if he did that in North Korea? That liberal professor, the students and all the families would end up in a hard labor camp for the next 20 years fighting over a piece of corn found in cow dung. He is lucky to be in the land of the free, the brave and the right to hate America.
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