Posted on Oct 21, 2014
"Muslims Demand Army Change Its Dress Code To Include Turbans And Beards"
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I know this has been beat to death, but i wanted to add something. I am currently in Turkey and work with Turkish Solders every day, they are over 99% Muslim yet they are not allowed beards or Turbans in uniform.
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PO1 Tony Peters
except this story is actually about Sikh's not Muslims....but most Murican's don't know what sikhs are
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Cpl Don "GUNNY" Miller
Doesn't matter if they are Sikh's, Murican's, or Muslims, NO BEARDS OR TURBINS! SSG Ed M. you are right on, they don't allow it and neither should we. Period dot! If they don't like it don't join or get out!
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I'm sorry but I'm offended by that. I can't say God or Jesus Christ because it might offend a Muslim somewhere but now we have be subjected daily to their false religion? What country is this again?
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SSG (ret) William Martin
MS. Adams, Political correctness towards a few select while discriminating several is the main agenda nowadays.
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PV2 Violet Case
I will say Jesus Christ is my saviour, I will say God is the creator of all things and I will do so with honor of my King until my last breath. No man, woman, child, or country religion is going to tell me I can't. The worst they can do is cut off my head which hummmm if some had their way might, but I don't care my Father waits for me in Heaven and has made a place for me in His kingdom. And I would no longer be suffering in pain or anything here on earth anymore. But Jesus is my saviour and guess what He was born on Christmas day and that I will bank my life on. No one is big enough to take that from me. Amen.
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Are you kidding me? Turbans? Beards? As an American, I raked my face with a razor and cut my hair (within the UCMJ guidelines) for 4 years. They (mostly long haired foreigners), should have to do the same. NOBODY gives a fuck about your religion in combat. And the last time I checked, it was the "MUSLIMS" that was betraying us with there US issued weapons in trusted situations. So now we bow down to you? FUCK NO!!! Bad idea to pass thing ruling. Wear OUR uniform the way it was meant to be worn.....with PRIDE fuckers, or else go back to your own broke ass country and serve in your military. What happened to America? This used to be our military, now we're bowing down to foreigners and there beliefs? While we're at it, why don't we just change the name of OUR country and call it "AMERICANISTAN." What's next "HONOR KILLINGS" for your wives? 20 years from now, our Christian rights won't exist, because our government (assholes in neckties), will have given them away to every terrorist organization on earth. Now I see why MUSLIMS are turning on our own US soldiers and killing them. All in the name of ALLAH!!!! REALLY?
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SGT Michael Glenn
Be careful on this subject Sra Caligula, some here think they can hide behind rank on an open forum and troll for comments like this and begin bashing you for exercising your constitutional rights. Good answer by the way, precise and to the point,left no doubt about where you stand on the subject.
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The Muslim Brotherhood slowly laid the groundwork to seize power in Egypt, the Sudan, Jordan, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Malaysia, Eastern Europe, the Philippians, etc, and is every country lacking the will to throw them out. And, now in America the Brotherhood is following the same path.
They work in the American communities to make it a fifth column, and want to take over all communities they target for settlement and occupation. Their agenda is to seize power. They want to go after the young minds in a variety of ways. One is to start scholarships in high school or they bring them to a certain level of obedience called "tarbiyya.
Muslims strive to get elected to city councils, county supervisors, congressmen, senators, and would you believe President of the USA. Initially they may sound conservative and responsible, which has broad appeal. But, they never really reveal they are Muslim. They believe that the world is divided into two camps: the camp of believers; or their camp, and the camp of disbelievers: or a camp of war. And they have the religious duty to war against all not in “their camp”.
Giving into, or changing military dress code would only be the beginning of a complete takeover of our military. This would eventually render our military useless. We should not allow any person who declares themselves to be a Muslim in our military. It’s inviting the enemy into our camp. Not only would that be unwise and STUPID, but it would be like injecting yourself with the Ebola virus. Ask yourself why the moderate Muslims in this country have not spoken out against the radical Muslims. It’s because they will not speak out for fear for their own lives. The world of Islam is bondage to a religion of tyranny.
Beards are NOT allowed in the military because a bearded person can NOT use respirators or and OBA. It is the same in refineries and chemical plants…no beards or facial hair.
How comfortable are you having a Muslim Military doctor diagnose your illness? This is the same person whose Hippocratic oath is trumped by his duty as a Muslim to kill you.
They work in the American communities to make it a fifth column, and want to take over all communities they target for settlement and occupation. Their agenda is to seize power. They want to go after the young minds in a variety of ways. One is to start scholarships in high school or they bring them to a certain level of obedience called "tarbiyya.
Muslims strive to get elected to city councils, county supervisors, congressmen, senators, and would you believe President of the USA. Initially they may sound conservative and responsible, which has broad appeal. But, they never really reveal they are Muslim. They believe that the world is divided into two camps: the camp of believers; or their camp, and the camp of disbelievers: or a camp of war. And they have the religious duty to war against all not in “their camp”.
Giving into, or changing military dress code would only be the beginning of a complete takeover of our military. This would eventually render our military useless. We should not allow any person who declares themselves to be a Muslim in our military. It’s inviting the enemy into our camp. Not only would that be unwise and STUPID, but it would be like injecting yourself with the Ebola virus. Ask yourself why the moderate Muslims in this country have not spoken out against the radical Muslims. It’s because they will not speak out for fear for their own lives. The world of Islam is bondage to a religion of tyranny.
Beards are NOT allowed in the military because a bearded person can NOT use respirators or and OBA. It is the same in refineries and chemical plants…no beards or facial hair.
How comfortable are you having a Muslim Military doctor diagnose your illness? This is the same person whose Hippocratic oath is trumped by his duty as a Muslim to kill you.
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SGT Michael Glenn
Gerry,our 1st mistake was making a muslim President, he has sealed all his papers but yet wants access to all citizens??? I agree with you in this process of thinking,unfortunately you are right in saying that todays people are too easily misled and fooled into things that only become apparent when its too late, chipping away at the military is in my belief the final act before the curtain falls and the states will be no more than a large battle field and the military is going to be seriously wounded because it will be torn between those who have turned into Muslims themselves with out really knowing it and the remaining will be torn over who to follow, what is right... I believe we are in for a rude awakening and soon as election time draws nearer and obama has already made it clear that he doesnt want to step down.
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As a Muslim in the United States Army I believe that we all must abide by AR 670-1.
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SGT Michael Glenn
Do all muslims wear head turbans because of religious beliefs, or just certain groups??do all muslim men wear beards for the same reason??? I am asking this because other muslims have commented that they do not wear or grow these things for religious beliefs, just trying to get a pattern set here.thanks !!!!
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I have several thoughts on this. The first is, never get news from a blog site, they are terribly unreliable.
This isn't even a new article, this is a re-blog of an old article that was probably written about a year ago. It's basically "click-bait". They put an infuriating headline at the top, no one reads the article, and then everyone posts a comment that's three times longer than the article they never read. It refers to the announcement made back in January that people may request exceptions for military dress.
Those exceptions aren't always granted: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/us-usa-army-religion-idUSBREA3R1F320140428
In summary, it's all BS, everyone is getting worked up over nothing, and no one is demanding anything.
Also, that's the same news site that reported Obamacare killed off an old lady intentionally. Real solid stuff there.
This isn't even a new article, this is a re-blog of an old article that was probably written about a year ago. It's basically "click-bait". They put an infuriating headline at the top, no one reads the article, and then everyone posts a comment that's three times longer than the article they never read. It refers to the announcement made back in January that people may request exceptions for military dress.
Those exceptions aren't always granted: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/28/us-usa-army-religion-idUSBREA3R1F320140428
In summary, it's all BS, everyone is getting worked up over nothing, and no one is demanding anything.
Also, that's the same news site that reported Obamacare killed off an old lady intentionally. Real solid stuff there.
Two U.S. soldiers lose bid to dress according to religious custom
The U.S. Army has denied requests by two soldiers to dress and groom themselves according to their religious beliefs under a revised Pentagon policy, a spokesman said on Monday.
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SGM Robin Johnson
CPT Purdie, do you lead Soldiers? Do you know what the requirements are of you if one of your Soldiers asks you for a religious accommodation? Do you know what you would reply if a Soldier asked you about aligning personal values with Army values or if they have to defend EVERY aspect of the constitution even if they disagree with it (such as freedom of religion)? Examine yourself, young Captain, and decide if you can fulfill your oath of office. You are replying to a post that is so misleading as to be false. No religious group 'demanded' anything. No regulations were changed. The DOD published a clarification of expectations about religious accommodations in January 2014. The Army already met those standard. The Soldiers pictured are not Muslim, they are Sikh and have been serving for several years without any issues, including wearing protective gear. The fact that you didn't know the regulations, policies, and procedures regarding uniforms and religious accommodations well enough to notice this, even though they have been basically unchanged for years, is troubling. Even the most junior Soldier could have checked this out on Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/armyturban.asp
Did Muslims demand the U.S. Army change its dress code to allow turbans and beards?
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CPT (Join to see)
You know, I stand corrected! I don't usually read snopes. The fact the article is not truthful is misleading and with everything that has happened, I trust no one from the middleast. They need to prove themselves first that they are loyal to USA.
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