Posted on Nov 14, 2016
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Thought the picture was bigger, 2nd completely visible person, top row, to the right of Secretary Clinton's hip. Noticed a female Navy LT in uniform at a Clinton Rally. First saw it in the final episode of Showtimes The Circus.
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Actually there are a number of possible answers that don't include it being illegal. She could have been acting under orders as a PUblic Affairs type, or she could have been assigned as a naval advisor. But let's be honest here it really doesn't matter because Trump name dropped a half dozen Generals and had them seen with him in uniform. Heck we have had multiple incidents of this type of thing for years. At least she isn't at a training command and recording herself sitting through colors for Facebook.
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SSgt Christopher Mortell
If she was in an official capacity she would t be on stage at a rally. The generals weren't at rallies.
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PO1 Todd Cousins
Actually she could easily be on stage and again we have a single picture without any other sources of information. Simply there is not enough info to know what is happening here.
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Of course its a violation .. and should be punished .... especially since an officer ..
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Sgt Phillip Pentzer
How is it a violation ? We see active duty in dress uni fir weddings and other events. Dress uni' s are allowed ! Its fatigues that are not allowed in public unless something changed since I seperated.
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We don't have enough information to pass judgement or even have an opinion on the matter. The officer could have been there on official duty. We don't know, and shouldn't just assume.
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Maj John Bell
Secretary Clinton is a former Secretary, not a serving secretary; and therefore not entitled to any military staff. As Secretary of State I am not aware that she would be entitled to a personal military staff member even if she was serving. What official duty would allow that Navy Lieutenant to be used as an "ornament" on the bleachers behind a political candidate? It is a tacit endorsement. No one stands on the bleachers behind a candidate because they are voting for the other guy. The only official duty I can imagine a military member being there to perform is color guard. It the Lieutenant was there as OIC for the color guard, she should have known better than to stand on those bleachers.
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LTC (Join to see)
The answer, again, bring we don't have that information. If she's not on official duty, and this it not an altered phito, then she's wrong, but we don't have that information, so we can't make that determination based on just this photo.
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Maj John Bell
LTC (Join to see) - If you watch the Showtime documentary there is live footage where you can see the officer walking around in the background. That is how I knew she was a Lieutenant..
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SSgt DeAndray Dyer
The pic is all info you need. She shouldn't be there in uniform. Don't know about the Navy but the Marine Corps teaches that in boot camp. You don't wear your uniform in support of political campaigns and she would not be in the bleachers on official duty. If she was with moto photo, she wouldn't be in the bleachers!
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Maj John Bell, Yes, it is a violation, but you already knew that. It implies or infers endorsement by the service or DoD. Drop the boom on her! LOL
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CDR Phil Brennan
Is anybody sure she is a real Navy person or another one of Hillary's plants o photoshopped campaign ho??? I would vote for the latter!!!!
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SSgt Boyd Herrst
You'd think that a Junior officer, new to the service would have that engraved into their brain by those that trained her., PO1...
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CPO (Join to see)
One would hope but I have dealt with some "E7"s that seem hell bent on not training the JO's properly. The Chief can make or brake a new O. On the other side you cant fix stupid.
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What if she is just a veteran who decided to wear her uniform? Strange, yes. Illegal???
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PO1 Todd Cousins
A retiree is only responsible to the UCMJ while serving their time in the fleet reserve. Which translates to hitting their 30 year mark.
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SGT Joseph Mitcham
As a retiree I can tell we have to abide by all the regulations if in uniform as active but as for the punitive point not sure if they could or would do anything. Army Regulation 670-1 prescribes uniform wear by Army veterans and retirees: Retirees. Paragraph 30-3 Veterans Paragraph 30-4 not sure about other branches I would assume the same for them
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CW3 Steven Pigott
Not sure about the Navy, but the Army has a very specific list of events in AR 670-1 regarding retirees wear of the uniform.
http://ar670.com/articles/view/30/wear-of-the-uniform-by-retired-personnel/321
http://ar670.com/articles/view/30/wear-of-the-uniform-by-retired-personnel/321
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Being in the backgeound is not an endorsement and is not a violation of any codes of UCMJ. Doing a endorsement in uniform is a violation. Attending a rally in uniform is not punishable.
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Maj John Bell
Read DoD 1344.10.4. It specifically addresses attending political rallies in uniform, for a candidate. It is not allowed. From the list of prohibited activities.
"4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn. "
"4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn. "
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There is no telling why she is there. As a medic assigned to WRAMC before it was WRNNMC I and others were assigned to go various events in uniform
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Maj John Bell
Were those events political rallies for a candidate running for political office? While there were you ordered to do something that might be perceived as a personal endorsement of that candidate while in your official capacity? Anyone who receives such an order needs to familiarize themselves and their command with DoD 1344.10.
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If she was there in an official capacity, then she would be smart enough not to include her happy add in a photo o_O. Give me a break with this working capacity crap.
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