Posted on Nov 14, 2016
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Thought the picture was bigger, 2nd completely visible person, top row, to the right of Secretary Clinton's hip. Noticed a female Navy LT in uniform at a Clinton Rally. First saw it in the final episode of Showtimes The Circus.
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Edited 9 y ago
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General Mattis is our only hope to kill the beast. Pray every night that Mattis's knife hand can reach through the corruption and serve justice
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Maj John Bell
I am not concerned with "the side" of a person violating DoD policy. The "little Johnny did it too" defense doesn't pass muster from a three year old. If one is not willing to follow, and to enforce military policies and standards Petty Officer, then one shouldn't hold the position of NCO or officer.
The DoD policy is in effect for a reason. I am not asking that these people be court-martialed or receive NJP, but someone needs to pull them up by the short hairs and let them know that they are in violation of DoD policy. The last thing we need in America is a politicized military. If you don't think so ask people who have lived under governments where the military is used as a mechanism of influence and intimidation.
There are facts not known about the photo you've presented us with, that are known about the photo of the Navy Officer. If the photo you have provided was taken at a pre-election political rally, the Marine should get the same "lesson" I advocate for the Lt.
The DoD policy is in effect for a reason. I am not asking that these people be court-martialed or receive NJP, but someone needs to pull them up by the short hairs and let them know that they are in violation of DoD policy. The last thing we need in America is a politicized military. If you don't think so ask people who have lived under governments where the military is used as a mechanism of influence and intimidation.
There are facts not known about the photo you've presented us with, that are known about the photo of the Navy Officer. If the photo you have provided was taken at a pre-election political rally, the Marine should get the same "lesson" I advocate for the Lt.
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PO3 Tracy Sefcik
Perhaps he didn't know and we don't know why the Lt was there in Uniform it us just a photo as well. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/12/01/marine-rebuked-for-performing-at-donald-trump-rally-in-uniform.html
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Maj John Bell
PO3 Tracy Sefcik - If you read the other posts, I first saw this on a showtime documentary called "The Circus". We know for a fact that the event in question is a political rally. I have yet to hear any reasonable theory why this Navy Lt would be there in an official capacity and why she would, as part of that official capacity, appear as a political ornament on the bleachers, on stage, as a backdrop for Secretary Clinton, who is not entitled to a military aide de camp.
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This is obviously a violation of DoD policy. Even were the LT in question assigned duty with a former Secretary, there is no reason for said service member to appear on stage during a rally. That obviates any question of duty assignment and brings back to the fore the question of appearance of endorsement.
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It was potoshopped, she is looking down and every has their head up. If it was real it would be a violation. Military should be APolitical.
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Could be someone was paid to dress up in a naval uniform for the rally. I mean it happens a lot.
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The UCMJ is not so uniformed. But what the hell two wrongs now make a right.
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Doesn't matter who you support you cannot attend a political rally in uniform I don't know about advisors but common sense would say they are behind the scenes
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Well we all know she will not be disciplined, nor will killery. Killery lost the election and we are stuck with Trump, Neither is a shining example of moral courage and patriotism. Pray for what we got and protect yourself.
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I think it is way too soon that there is political motivation with her being there. Need more information before it is determined whether or not she violated the UCMJ. My initial thought is that someone directed her to stand there.
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Maj John Bell
The only person who could issue an order that could be misconstrued as legal would be an officer of higher rank, who should know better. Or a civilian in the department of defense at cabinet level SecNav, or SecDef, who also should know better. Regardless, she has a duty to know DoD policy on political activity in uniform and knowing that policy she should have informed anyone directing her to stand there that it was against DoD policy and refused. What is your responsibility when you receive an illegal order?
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What is the violation ? It looks like a dress uni ? Which is allowed in public !
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Maj John Bell
From DoD Directive 1344.10 What Active Duty Members Can and Cannot Do in regards to political activities. Note the 1st and 15th "cannots", I marked them with an asterisk.
Can - Register, vote, and express a personal opinion on political candidates and issues, but not as a representative of the Armed Forces.
Can - Promote and encourage other military members to exercise their voting franchise, if such promotion does not constitute an attempt to influence or interfere with the outcome of an election.
Can - Join a political club and attend its meetings when not in uniform.
Can - Serve as an election official, if such service is not as a representative of a partisan political party, does not interfere with the performance of military duties, is performed when not in uniform, and the Secretary concerned has given prior approval. The Secretary concerned may NOT delegate the authority to grant or deny such permission.
Can - Sign a petition for specific legislative action or a petition to place a candidate's name on an official election ballot, if the signing does not obligate the member to engage in partisan political activity and is done as a private citizen and not as a representative of the Armed Forces.
Can - Write a letter to the editor of a newspaper expressing the member’s personal views on public issues or political candidates, if such action is not part of an organized letter-writing campaign or a solicitation of votes for or against a political party or partisan political cause or candidate. If the letter identifies the member as on active duty (or if the member is otherwise reasonably identifiable as a member of the Armed Forces), the letter should clearly state that the views expressed are those of the individual only and not those of the Department of Defense.
Can - Display a political sticker on the member's private vehicle.
Can - Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.
Can - Participate fully in the Federal Voting Assistance Program.
What Active Duty Members Can and Cannot Do
*Cannot - Participate in partisan political fundraising activities, rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof), management of campaigns, or debates, either on one’s own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator.
Cannot - Use official authority or influence to interfere with an election, affect the course or outcome of an election, solicit votes for a particular candidate or issue, or require or solicit political contributions from others.
Cannot -Allow or cause to be published partisan political articles, letters, or endorsements signed or written by the member that solicits votes for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause. However, letters to the editor are allowed.
Cannot - Serve in any official capacity with or be listed as a sponsor of a partisan political club.
Cannot - Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
Cannot - Participate in any radio, television, or other program or group discussion as an advocate for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
Cannot - Conduct a political opinion survey under the auspices of a partisan political club or group or distribute partisan political literature.
Cannot - Perform clerical or other duties for a partisan political committee or candidate during a campaign, on an election day, or after an election day during the process of closing out a campaign.
Cannot - Solicit or otherwise engage in fundraising activities in Federal offices or facilities, including military reservations, for any political cause or candidate.
Cannot - March or ride in a partisan political parade.
Cannot - Display a large political sign, banner, or poster (as distinguished from a bumper sticker) on a private vehicle.
Cannot - Display a partisan political sign, poster, banner, or similar device visible to the public at one’s residence on a military installation, even if that residence is part of a privatized housing development.
Cannot - Participate in any organized effort to provide voters with transportation to the polls if the effort is organized by or associated with a partisan political party, cause, or candidate.
Cannot - Sell tickets for or otherwise actively promote partisan political dinners and similar fundraising events.
*Cannot - Attend partisan political events as an official representative of the Armed Forces, except as a member of a joint Armed Forces color guard at the opening ceremonies of the national conventions of the Republican, Democratic, or other political parties recognized by the Federal Elections Committee or as otherwise authorized by the Secretary concerned.
Cannot - Make a campaign contribution to, or receive or solicit (on one’s own behalf) a campaign contribution from, any other member of the Armed Forces on active duty.
Cannot - Any activity that may be reasonably viewed as directly or indirectly associating the Department of Defense or the Department of Homeland Security (in the case of the Coast Guard) or any component of these Departments with a partisan political activity or is otherwise contrary to the spirit and intention of this Directive shall be avoided.
Can - Register, vote, and express a personal opinion on political candidates and issues, but not as a representative of the Armed Forces.
Can - Promote and encourage other military members to exercise their voting franchise, if such promotion does not constitute an attempt to influence or interfere with the outcome of an election.
Can - Join a political club and attend its meetings when not in uniform.
Can - Serve as an election official, if such service is not as a representative of a partisan political party, does not interfere with the performance of military duties, is performed when not in uniform, and the Secretary concerned has given prior approval. The Secretary concerned may NOT delegate the authority to grant or deny such permission.
Can - Sign a petition for specific legislative action or a petition to place a candidate's name on an official election ballot, if the signing does not obligate the member to engage in partisan political activity and is done as a private citizen and not as a representative of the Armed Forces.
Can - Write a letter to the editor of a newspaper expressing the member’s personal views on public issues or political candidates, if such action is not part of an organized letter-writing campaign or a solicitation of votes for or against a political party or partisan political cause or candidate. If the letter identifies the member as on active duty (or if the member is otherwise reasonably identifiable as a member of the Armed Forces), the letter should clearly state that the views expressed are those of the individual only and not those of the Department of Defense.
Can - Display a political sticker on the member's private vehicle.
Can - Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.
Can - Participate fully in the Federal Voting Assistance Program.
What Active Duty Members Can and Cannot Do
*Cannot - Participate in partisan political fundraising activities, rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof), management of campaigns, or debates, either on one’s own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator.
Cannot - Use official authority or influence to interfere with an election, affect the course or outcome of an election, solicit votes for a particular candidate or issue, or require or solicit political contributions from others.
Cannot -Allow or cause to be published partisan political articles, letters, or endorsements signed or written by the member that solicits votes for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause. However, letters to the editor are allowed.
Cannot - Serve in any official capacity with or be listed as a sponsor of a partisan political club.
Cannot - Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
Cannot - Participate in any radio, television, or other program or group discussion as an advocate for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
Cannot - Conduct a political opinion survey under the auspices of a partisan political club or group or distribute partisan political literature.
Cannot - Perform clerical or other duties for a partisan political committee or candidate during a campaign, on an election day, or after an election day during the process of closing out a campaign.
Cannot - Solicit or otherwise engage in fundraising activities in Federal offices or facilities, including military reservations, for any political cause or candidate.
Cannot - March or ride in a partisan political parade.
Cannot - Display a large political sign, banner, or poster (as distinguished from a bumper sticker) on a private vehicle.
Cannot - Display a partisan political sign, poster, banner, or similar device visible to the public at one’s residence on a military installation, even if that residence is part of a privatized housing development.
Cannot - Participate in any organized effort to provide voters with transportation to the polls if the effort is organized by or associated with a partisan political party, cause, or candidate.
Cannot - Sell tickets for or otherwise actively promote partisan political dinners and similar fundraising events.
*Cannot - Attend partisan political events as an official representative of the Armed Forces, except as a member of a joint Armed Forces color guard at the opening ceremonies of the national conventions of the Republican, Democratic, or other political parties recognized by the Federal Elections Committee or as otherwise authorized by the Secretary concerned.
Cannot - Make a campaign contribution to, or receive or solicit (on one’s own behalf) a campaign contribution from, any other member of the Armed Forces on active duty.
Cannot - Any activity that may be reasonably viewed as directly or indirectly associating the Department of Defense or the Department of Homeland Security (in the case of the Coast Guard) or any component of these Departments with a partisan political activity or is otherwise contrary to the spirit and intention of this Directive shall be avoided.
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