Posted on May 10, 2015
Oath Keepers. It's been said Veterans are keeping their Oaths. Will you keep your Oath after Military Service?
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Keeping your oath, while on active duty, and keeping the oath after you leave service. How important is it and will it be something that you will continue after you leave the military service? With the degradation of society and the state of civil unrest, it's important that members of society have members that can be counted on the hold the line of what is right and stand up for those who cannot defend or speak for themselves. Oath Keepers are not just police or first responders, they are common people who have taken the oath and are firmly committed to upholding it.
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SSG Edward Tilton - You are correct if you contend that honorably discharged enlisted, NCO, and officer veterans are not technically obligated to follow their oath when returned to civilian status. However most do continue to keep their oaths as a testament of their service and loyalty to the United States. I believe most Americans (in general) expect officers and NOOs to at least "adhere" to their Oath's of Office irrespective of their actual status. Retired officers are absolutely expected to keep their oaths following their retirement. I am unsure about retired enlisted or NCOs.
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Cpl Bernard Bates
I have taken two oaths 1 for the Marines 1 for the Army. I was a teen in the 50,s and the cold war was on and the talk of using nuclear weapons was was going to be the answer. My Mindset was better dead than red. I'm 79 years old and I still feel that way. When I see domestic terrorists attacking our congress I think to myself, try that in Russia or China and see what happens. Their is no "I have rights". Rights in those countries are Prison or death. Semper Fi.
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I just pray that those in service remember their oath if called upon to quell/enforce a domestic agenda and that their leaders have the courage to refuse to carry out immorale or unlawful orders.
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SFC Charles S.
MAJ Anne McGee I'm 100% with you and agree wholeheartedly. Christians are becoming a rare commodity in the military. Those who are there have a heavy burden to carry by representing and holding the line. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13
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Damnit, I see agendas every day that do not coincide with my beliefs so if it is to protect America yes, but I will not shoot someone in my family over an agenda.
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MAJ Anne McGee
Yes, and the political agendas appear to be getting more sinister and overt; however, I can't agree with your statement. I will not shoot Americans on American soil as part of an agenda not just because it's my immediate family but because I swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and if that enemy is the government (agenda), then I am duty bound to protect Americans as my family. I understand that a situation can become chaotic but it is those situations that define us.
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MAJ Anne McGee
MAJ Anne McGee You're statement just agreed with myn. My prayer is that our soldiers remember their oath and that they and their leaders do not enforce unlawful orders either here in the US or abroad.
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SFC Charles S.
I will and have continued to keep my oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
My problem is not that there are some who cannot speak of defend themselves, my problem stems from the fact that 14% of the people in this country tell the other 86% to sit down and shut up and of that percentage 85 will actually listen. Therein lies the problem. There are too many people who are unwilling to stand up for themselves who are perfectly capable of doing so. Fortunately for them there are people like us (1%ers, military) who will do it for them.
I don't care who they are, what the color of their skin is, by what name they call God, or even if they know me let alone like me.
I will defend the following,
My God
My Family
My Country
My Property
and the rights of others no matter how I may feel about them personally.
I will and have continued to keep my oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
My problem is not that there are some who cannot speak of defend themselves, my problem stems from the fact that 14% of the people in this country tell the other 86% to sit down and shut up and of that percentage 85 will actually listen. Therein lies the problem. There are too many people who are unwilling to stand up for themselves who are perfectly capable of doing so. Fortunately for them there are people like us (1%ers, military) who will do it for them.
I don't care who they are, what the color of their skin is, by what name they call God, or even if they know me let alone like me.
I will defend the following,
My God
My Family
My Country
My Property
and the rights of others no matter how I may feel about them personally.
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SFC Charles S.
SPC Charles Brown I love this MEME it is what OathKeepers are about at the heart and core.
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SSgt (Join to see)
I will never support a Muslim or Communist dictator. I would protect the President and his family because of what the FLAG and the Constitution represent. You start changing the tenants of what makes us America and order me to do something against God or my family then the gauntlet is laid down.
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We all took an oath to the US Constitution, not a party or person. If someone still identifies as a < insert party here > they don't truly understand the document that was created to LIMIT the power of government. My task to those is to read George Washington's farewell address and apply some introspection while reading the enumerated powers in the US Constitution granted to those calling themselves leaders.
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SFC Charles S.
Cpl (Join to see) I am 100% with you on that... The Constitution and the freedoms it protects are the ultimate duty.
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SFC Charles S. If those that revere the Constitution in a way that the oath prescribes would read the laws being written in context with the enumerated powers of the legislative branch, I believe we would have a grand awakening. Most laws now are written so far outside the limits placed on government that I hardly recognize the country I volunteered to defend. And I see both major parties defending their lawlessness while amassing riches and power with sheep who blindly follow. The only avenue I see to remedy the issues is an Article 5 Convention of The States making congressional term limits the priority Amendment.
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SFC Charles S.
Cpl (Join to see) Yes, This is not the country that the Greatest Generation Came Home to from WWII, It's different from the Vietnam War Veterans Left and Even as a Desert Storm Veteran it's much different than When I came home. You would figure that with that many veterans there would be some voice in Washington that would be in tune with what WE are about and not just lining their pockets.
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SFC Charles S.
SFC (Join to see) Great Quote and from one of the Greatest Generation. LTC Doolittle.
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The Oath is not like a service contract that expires in 2,3,4,6 years.
I plan on continuing to keep my oath long after I leave military service.
I plan on continuing to keep my oath long after I leave military service.
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SFC Charles S.
SrA Jonathan Carbonaro Excellent, I am glad to here that, across all services and all ranks I hope to find true what you just stated.
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No.
The oath I took when I enlisted in the Army no longer applies to me. I am a veteran, but I am a civilian. Nothing obligates me to follow the orders of the president or any appointee of his/hers. I no longer hold myself to many of the standards enforced by UCMJ.
It is a personal choice to uphold and defend the constitution of the united states of america, but not because it is of the USA. I have made it my personal choice that I support many of the values expressed in that document.
I will support and defend the people of the united states of america from all enemies, foreign and domestic, but I decide who the enemy is for myself, not the government.
Does this answer OP?
The oath I took when I enlisted in the Army no longer applies to me. I am a veteran, but I am a civilian. Nothing obligates me to follow the orders of the president or any appointee of his/hers. I no longer hold myself to many of the standards enforced by UCMJ.
It is a personal choice to uphold and defend the constitution of the united states of america, but not because it is of the USA. I have made it my personal choice that I support many of the values expressed in that document.
I will support and defend the people of the united states of america from all enemies, foreign and domestic, but I decide who the enemy is for myself, not the government.
Does this answer OP?
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SFC Charles S.
SPC (Join to see) I believe that you would be considered an Oath Keeper if that is your definition. It's not about the literal enlistment oath as much as it is the Constitutional democracy and freedom protection. You said it "I have made it my personal choice that I support many of the values expressed in that document.
I will support and defend the people of the united states of america from all enemies, foreign and domestic, but I decide who the enemy is for myself, not the government." That is the Answer. There is nothing political in my question other than do we stand up for and support what we served for while we were in.
GREAT Answer.
I will support and defend the people of the united states of america from all enemies, foreign and domestic, but I decide who the enemy is for myself, not the government." That is the Answer. There is nothing political in my question other than do we stand up for and support what we served for while we were in.
GREAT Answer.
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"I do solemnly swear, that I will support and defend the Constitution for the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. That I take this obligation willingly, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well, and faithfully, discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter, so help me God." Typed from memory without reference, punctuation may be off.
Any officer who has not memorized this and read the constitution to which s/he swore an oath is remiss in his/her duties.
Any enlisted ServiceMember who does not do the same with respect to his/her oath is remiss as well.
Any officer who has not memorized this and read the constitution to which s/he swore an oath is remiss in his/her duties.
Any enlisted ServiceMember who does not do the same with respect to his/her oath is remiss as well.
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CSM Michael Lynch
Capt Richard I P. Super Job and it doesn't hurt any of our Senior NCO's to reaffirm this once in a while. Since we went to indef enlistment I think some of them will forget about the OATH and what is means to all. I know I have not and will not forget it and my OATH has no expiration date either.
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SFC Charles S.
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca Exactly Sir, the word Former is Not applicable to Veterans.
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