Posted on Jan 14, 2015
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This weekend me and my GF decided to get out and go to the movies not near any military base once so ever (maybe a Reserve or NG training facility could be near by). So I'm glancing around notice a uniform on a young lady and her hair down with a PT cap on inside of the mall. I didn't loose my mind at first because it could be anyone just wearing the uniform these days. As I get closer to her I notice she has on SPC rank. I told my GF that I have to say something to her and of course she didn't understand. When I approached the SPC and her civilian male acquaintance, I asked her was she in the Army and she quickly replied "yes". So I asked her did she know she was in complete violation of Army Regs she says "yes". The female rolled her eyes at me and I could tell she was going to have
a attitude with me so I quickly removed myself from the situation. So at what point do we as leaders make a on the spot correction in public or remove ourselves from the situation? I felt at the time as a NCO I should have done more to make her fix herself, but on the other hand I didn't want to make a scene at the mall and in public. SPC Ware I definitely will remember you forever.
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MAJ Aeromedical Physician Assistant
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You were correct to make an on spot correction however today’s soldiers unfortunately have a totally different attitude as opposed to when I was a private so it’s difficult to implement regulations
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SPC Sheila Lewis
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She was just pushing the limits.
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SPC Sheila Lewis
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She knew better.
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CPT David Geasland
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Flint: "He was wearing a battle of the Bulge ribbon."
Cramden: "There is no Battle of the Bulge ribbon!"
Flint: "Precisely, this man is an imposter!"
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SGM Legislative Liaison
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I wonder if we’ve gotten a valid opinion yet on this post from 3 years ago! Cmon RallyPoint!!!
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SGT Walter Lester
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SSG Robinson, You should have called her aside and corrected her on the spot. It's lessons learned that makes the soldier strong, if she knows that she can get by with doing what she wants in public in uniform she will do it again. Maybe in combat too. Your mistake.
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CW2 Jo Alistair
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The battle was lost as soon as you told her it was ok for her to knowingly act in violation of Army Regulations. If you are going to bring up the topic you must follow it to conclusion of her either conforming to regulations or having her face corrective encouragement.
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The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. I agree the SM should have been tactfully corrected- however- I can fully understand the reluctance to do so. I can only speak for the army, but Soldiers are very aware of resources available to them, and some Soldiers have no qualms about abusing those resources to push back against authority. We have discussed this topic in LPDs, and a surprising number of leaders hesitate making corrections for fear of an IG, EO, or SHARP compliant.

I have personally had complaints filed against me for enforcing the standards, and have seen it happen to others. It is not a pleasant process to experience, but I can rest easy knowing I did the right thing. My concern is that too many people see leaders getting raked over the coals for upholding those standards and begin to wonder if it is worth the hassle to make those corrections.

Bottom line: as service members and leaders we need to chose the hard right over the easy wrong, that's why we are professionals. We also need to ensure we are absolutely in the right and correct when we make those corrections and enforce the standards. Enforce the standard and be prepared to back it up.
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SPC John Chambers
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I was in a similar situation when I found an Air Force E1 wandering around the mall with his cover on. Normally I would have said whatever and moved on but this kid was a good 300 feet from any exit. I calmly confronted him about it because I didn't want one of the Air Force Recruiters catching him. Anyway he started getting pissed at me ( I wasn't in uniform) and a WW2 veteran came to the Aide of the young Airman. When he found out I was in the Army the WW2 vet saluted me and told me to get back to chewing the Airman's ass. It was a unique experience for all of us I think.
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SFC Phillip Allen
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Once she confirmed she was a soldier, ask her unit, and then you could have simply, and quietly mentioned she is obligated to follow regulations, 24/7, in/out of uniform, on/off post. If she refused to acknowledge and correct, copped an attitude, or made a public spectacle of herself, then you could've taken her name, rank and unit and reported her to her chain of command. Sometimes you have to make an example, you don't have to get animated or overly excited to make corrections.
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