Posted on Apr 24, 2015
Oregon Rules Christian Bakers Who Refused Gay Wedding to Pay $135,000 Fine For Couple's Suffering. Who Pays Costs Of Religious Persecution?
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Without the expert testimony of psychologists or therapists, the State of Oregon has determined that the extent of suffering caused by one lesbian couple who were politely declined service on religious grounds by one bakery should result in said bakery paying said couple $135,000 for a myriad of symptoms the couple allege stem from the emotional trauma caused by the refusal of service, to include: “acute loss of confidence,” “doubt,” “excessive sleep,” “felt mentally raped, dirty and shameful,” “high blood pressure,” “impaired digestion,” “loss of appetite,” “migraine headaches,” “pale and sick at home after work,” “resumption of smoking habit,” “shock” “stunned,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “weight gain” and “worry.” Hmmm. These sound strangely similar to the many symptoms Aaron and Melissa Klein have likely experienced upon being unfairly forced out of business, and now unjustly being compelled to expend their life's savings paying a tyrannical fine. Who then, shall they file claim against?
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MAJ (Join to see)
SrA Daniel Hunter, precisely! Yet, far too many of my liberal friends don't wish to acknowledge the existence of this little bit of hypocrisy which is played out here in Dearborn, but could just as easily be a neighborhood here in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area or anywhere else.
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They didn't wanna bake the cake why not go somewhere else. All the above named "loss of appetite, high blood pressure etc...." Other (man+woman) couples suffer from that too before their wedding day lol!! Just ridiculous in my opinion.
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I get a bit of a giggle when I hear about "religious persecution" coming from US Citizens.
Try living in a Catholic on Protestant on Catholic (ad nauseam) hell hole like Ireland for a hundred years and check back with us.
Try living in a Catholic on Protestant on Catholic (ad nauseam) hell hole like Ireland for a hundred years and check back with us.
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Well, I can tell you right now allows a Christian in the state, I move out. Ain't no way in the world I would ever pay them this is blasphemy if they do pay.
They need to start moving to states that actually believe in freedom of speech, freedom of faith and religion. And also, being in a state that's a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights
They need to start moving to states that actually believe in freedom of speech, freedom of faith and religion. And also, being in a state that's a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights
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MAJ (Join to see)
SSG Leonard Johnson, I do concur. I would be Hell and gone across the state line, perhaps leaving a note, quoting the great Davy Crockett: "You all may go to Hell and we shall go to Texas!"
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MAJ (Join to see)
SGT Michael Touchet, yes, first, they were hounded out of business by the avalanche of negative media publicity, now they are faced with having to hand over their life savings. It's hard to believe this is the USA sometimes...
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SGT Michael Touchet
It is terrifying how low we have sunk as a nation under God! To be forced out of business because of ones faith is a new low. I guess they are forced to believe in same sex marriage, regardless of their Christian beliefs; yet the Christians do not force others to believe as they do, so please explain the reasonableness of that. WOW!
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Too damn much PC crap, if people want to be gay or lesbian by all rights be so. But that is no reason to throw it in peoples faces and then sue. Now I understand its out in public but its a private business they should have the right to refuse to serve anyone they please, hell I see it here on business door's all the time.
Yes and we have fought for peoples right and freedoms, that is true. But that right stop's once you enter my property then all rights are mine, and if you don't like it leave and that's how I see it. A private business should be much the same way once your on there property.
Yes and we have fought for peoples right and freedoms, that is true. But that right stop's once you enter my property then all rights are mine, and if you don't like it leave and that's how I see it. A private business should be much the same way once your on there property.
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I'm not religious but I believe in respecting their position. Is it fair for the couple? No. But is it fair for the people who have beliefs about gay marriage and how their religion feels about it. No. It's already been said no one wins here. Looks like a slippery slop from here on out. Sad really.
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America has lost its moral compass and collective mind. It saddens me greatly to see what is happening to our once proud nation that used to say, "In God We Trust." Now it is "In God We Trusted." ... And it shows! The rest of the world which respected America for its virtues can't believe how ignorant and complacent we've become... If things don't change soon, I fear for the future of this nation.
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My reply is short and to the point..
First it was the Hot cup of coffee ordered by the driver who then held it between her knees or legs, and sued because it spilled and burned her.. Did she think she ordered ice coffee..
Now it is religious preference takes a back seat..
The common denominator is the legal system.. More accurately, the judges we have so wittingly put on the bench. None of this would be an issue - if the judges did their job and stop
trying to create laws (that task belongs to the legislators - who carry their own portion of guilt for failing to do their jobs).. Judges are not in for life (not even the supreme court), can we spell impeachment?
Course now we have to look at who put these fools in office? OOPs! Twas the voting (or non-voting) citizens.
So starting with us citizens, we need to create change and start now. Get to know who you are voting for. Also, get out and vote. People wonder how things got the way they are - well? If Joe citizen isn't going to watch or pay attention, then Joe citizen will never know what hit him.. This is not the Gay sectors problem, they are just using the freedom given to them by the judges who we put in office.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is a crime that has been committed here. Question now is what are we going to do about it? I don't like Brussel Sprouts - Should I be able to force stores to not sell them?
Democracy takes work. So let's go to work and fix it.. Start paying attention to what is happening.
First it was the Hot cup of coffee ordered by the driver who then held it between her knees or legs, and sued because it spilled and burned her.. Did she think she ordered ice coffee..
Now it is religious preference takes a back seat..
The common denominator is the legal system.. More accurately, the judges we have so wittingly put on the bench. None of this would be an issue - if the judges did their job and stop
trying to create laws (that task belongs to the legislators - who carry their own portion of guilt for failing to do their jobs).. Judges are not in for life (not even the supreme court), can we spell impeachment?
Course now we have to look at who put these fools in office? OOPs! Twas the voting (or non-voting) citizens.
So starting with us citizens, we need to create change and start now. Get to know who you are voting for. Also, get out and vote. People wonder how things got the way they are - well? If Joe citizen isn't going to watch or pay attention, then Joe citizen will never know what hit him.. This is not the Gay sectors problem, they are just using the freedom given to them by the judges who we put in office.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is a crime that has been committed here. Question now is what are we going to do about it? I don't like Brussel Sprouts - Should I be able to force stores to not sell them?
Democracy takes work. So let's go to work and fix it.. Start paying attention to what is happening.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
SGT Luke Fouquier
Truth .. the coffee was like 190F .. reasonable expectations come into play. In fact the McD's owner/manager just DGS. Basic tenet of free enterprise .. you are in business at your peril!
Truth .. the coffee was like 190F .. reasonable expectations come into play. In fact the McD's owner/manager just DGS. Basic tenet of free enterprise .. you are in business at your peril!
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
SGT Efaw (Mick) G.
Actually Judges to "make law" every time they are forced to interpret some of the soup-sandwich laws our rocket scientist politicians write up. That is why the argument about "Letter" vs "Spirit" of the law is a little silly. What really matters is the judicial interpretation of the law.
As to courts being "out of control", people that say that are admitting that they are "out of control" because the "court" is us ... 12 people at a time.
Actually Judges to "make law" every time they are forced to interpret some of the soup-sandwich laws our rocket scientist politicians write up. That is why the argument about "Letter" vs "Spirit" of the law is a little silly. What really matters is the judicial interpretation of the law.
As to courts being "out of control", people that say that are admitting that they are "out of control" because the "court" is us ... 12 people at a time.
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One example of the courts making law is the infamous/notorious Roe v. Wade ruling. That one ruling established the law of the land.
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